Poll: How long have you been programming?
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#223You forgot 40+ and 50+ [I qualify for the first and almost for the second].
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#224I started out in 2001. Back then I was working for some company as a graphics designer -- I had been there for about 1 year (fresh out of school) -- building the layouts for their countless websites. Back then the whole internet industry was about to collapse and I could see the proverbial axe dangling over me come the end of my year contract. A coworker of mine was responsible for the programming. Mostly perl and ph…
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
yet there are a lot of concepts they need to digest before they jump into the html/js world. it already means they need to learn two languages (html and js), interaction between them , etc... I'm not even mentioning things like - open notepad, save the file, make sure you get the extension right, fire up the browser, click open (why not in address bar? oh yeah, you can, but tell a kid the file:/// business and see if…
I still maintain that - Start -> Run -> notepad - Hello, World! , Save As "hello.htm" on desktop - double-click it and watch it appear in a browser Is 1% of 1% of the effort it took to program an 8-bit machine.
What about 10 print "HELLO" 20 GOTO 10
Or something like that? If I wanted hello world on the screen I'd get a piece of damn paper. The beauty of quick basic was it got you into procedural code, where the computer does stuff. You can get someone going with Python relatively easily but not as easy as QBasic was on a Mac II in the school computer lab.
You can say there's been a cultural shift but every generation's been saying "kids these days", back to at least Socrates. I'd say that not having QBasic be one of 6 icons you can click is a bigger change, it's not the kids.
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#229Related: are there any 2nd or 3rd generation programmers around? My both parents are professional software engineers. (Waiting for someone to go: "I am a direct descendant of Ada Lovelace, now get off my lawn")
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#230Lived in SQL Server from when it was hard to differentiate from Sybase / OS/2. Did anyone ever have the problem that if you unplugged the monitor on an Sybase / OS/2 machine the whole box would crash?
In the mid-90's, the saving grace for us with VBIII / SQL Server was a small, self-published (at the time) book, Hitchhiker's guide to SQL Server, by Bill Vaughn. Actually went to dinner once with the guy- He flew helicopters in Vietnam on SAR missions... give him a couple of drinks and he'll tell some -very- interesting stories.
Three very cool years 2003-2005 creating games using Torque and GameStudio to host educational content (an FPS, hosting .avi's instead of shooting), then the C# .Net world on the desktop and the web. A little Python and Pearl thrown in for fun.
I'm lucky that I'm the go-to guy for weird requests. Keeps the job interesting.