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Am I wrong or is iPhone 15 usb-c is usb2 just with a different connector. Seems to me like only the pro is getting usb3 even though usb3 was first released in like 2008. Update: confirmed in iPhone specs page.

that's very weird, what's the BOM savings here? Seems like a custom part regardless, is it the controller chip that's cheaper? USB C for 2.0 seems baffling I agree.

Its not about the BOM or the cost, its about creating a more clear "this is the trash one" image of the base model, so more people will buy the Pro.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Honestly for me the best part is the USB-C. Every year it's a new camera, new whatever, but USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables. Not increasing the price is nice, I guess. Will have to buy more USB-C cables, though. (Technically the low highest end phone is higher, but higher spec, too). It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also. Pre-order Fr…

The USB-C is tempting. The only other Apple devices I own are all USB-C - Macbook Pros and an iPad Air. Maybe this will finally get me to switch from my aging Pixel 3A. The idea of dropping $800 on it is still a bit much though.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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I am absolutely baffled that Apple (and others) haven't updated their smart assistants with a competitive LLM. With Apple's privacy shtick and their mobile GPU efficiency, I was convinced we'd see something today. What am I missing?

There is a rumor that Apple is working on an "embedded" "SiriGPT". Imagine "ChatGPT" but on device, no API calls, no extra latency. And all apps on your device can use this "SiriGPT" instantly to enrich the user experience.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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This felt like really let down release. I am usually the first one to upgrade iPhone no matter what but this year I felt no attachment to any of these "new" things. Just didn't cared at all.

The things I would have cared:

- Dual screen

- AR/3D photo/video features in phone

- Much better battery life

- Full satellite communication

- OS-wide AI features, massively upgraded Siri, AI-first mobile browser, auto-complete, spell+grammer check, rewrites

- Even more AI features: Better reader-mode, PDF mode, maps infused with AI, super-res videos with structure from motion, flower/bird/food/tree/everything ID, so on and on.

What's going on with Apple?

The 2020s were "Internet in your pocket" and 2030s should be "Super smart AI in your pocket". Apple product managers feel so completely out of touch.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Curious what other devices people have that use USB-C? The only one I have is my Nintendo Switch. So for me, this is mostly an inconvenience having to get new cables for my phone. I'll miss Lightning.

MacBook Pro, wireless mouse, an audio mixer I think, a couple other things. I still use a lot more USB-A/B but it's creeping up there. I probably won't upgrade this generation but the switch is in the category of utterly inevitable and mostly will mean I have to buy some adapters and maybe a couple cables by the time it happens.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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> A huge leap forward for iPhone with a gorgeous new design I do like iPhone, I actually have a personal one and work provide me with one too, I like their security aspects. But can how can they say with a straigh face this is a new design ?

If they don't, an entire team of designers may lose their jobs. It has to be new or refreshing, otherwise what's the point of buying a new one?

This reminds me of a (maybe bad taste) joke about how UI & UX was perfected a few years back but designers had to keep creating huge Medium articles on their font and logo creations that curved a few pixels from the original.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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IMO, this was a pretty weak announcement. They spent so long talking about environmental stuff, like getting rid of leather, that it felt like they were trying to pad the presentation to reach a reasonable length. There were a few new things (more optical zoom, slightly smaller bezels), but these were all leaked in advance. I was also disappointed to hear that the satellite stuff is limited to 2 years. Is it going to…

I love the "This is our best $PRODUCT yet", duh is there a company making worse products every iteration?

They also said that with a straight face when they removed the headphone jack.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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I can only say this: finally, a type-C port.

They got dragged kicking and screaming to this solution by European regulators. Glad it’s finally done, but good Lord that was too long coming.

While the EU is a factor, the EU's mandatory ruling came too late to affect this product. In term's of iPhone release schedules only the iPhone 17 would fall into needing mandatory USB-C.

The USB-3 controller is in the A17 chip and not a separate component, considering the lead time for chip design and production it seems Apple had the transition in mind for quite a bit longer than the recent legislation changes in EU parliament.

As a timeline: the EU Parliament only proposed making USB-C mandatory in September 2021, and then only formally approved it in October 2022, prior to that it was just the EU's serving suggestion. Enforcement only begins on new product introductions from the latest October 2024, Apple release their Phones in September, meaning both the iPhone 15 and 16 could realistically still use lightning without infringement.

However now that Apple has introduced USB-C EU member states can safely fast track the law without affecting their economies (despite certain HN fantasies, forcing a major phone supplier out of the market for lolz is not good for a country.)

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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I am very disappointed in myself and in their trade in offer. I made the switch from Android to iOS after 15 years or so of being an Android die hard in July, with the intention of considering the 15 as a trade in. They offered me £635 for a 14 Pro Max 256. Less than half what I paid 2 months ago.

I'd wait until the iPhone 20 if I'd purchased a new phone two months ago.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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IMO, this was a pretty weak announcement. They spent so long talking about environmental stuff, like getting rid of leather, that it felt like they were trying to pad the presentation to reach a reasonable length. There were a few new things (more optical zoom, slightly smaller bezels), but these were all leaked in advance. I was also disappointed to hear that the satellite stuff is limited to 2 years. Is it going to…

I didn't see the announcement, but I saw this blurb on Engadget: > The company noted that while leather is popular for things like watch straps, it has a serious impact on the environment, particularly at Apple's scale. Is that actually true? I remember reading a few years ago that there was actually a big glut of leather: people still eat steak and hamburgers, and without a market for the cow hides then that materia…

One of the issues is that the tanning process requires the use of toxic chemicals, that are afterward often released to the environment.
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