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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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> “We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications, in a statement to The Verge. I wonder what the intended behavior was.

Probably intended nobody wrote an article about it. Time to pause until this too blows over.

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All the HN MS/Google bashing when it's not clear in the article what caused the popup. Who knows what the person's got running in their systray, what gaming apps are all tied into the browser engine and triggering the popups etc.... It's not as clear cut as "MS is throwing crap at you". I've got multiple installs of Windows 11 going, which I only did minimal pref settings to eliminate default search toolbars, and not…

That’s my experience too. I run all Windows here and I stay on the happy path. I did turn off a few options in control panel to reduce some UI clutter, but nothing has been hacked away. I run Pro and use an outlook.com login to sync settings. I don’t see any of these ads or pop ups. This is mostly fud here.

My work laptop with Windows just got a notification yesterday requesting me to install some game from the XBox Live store which certainly seemed like a bad use of system notifications. Haven't got any popups though.

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I got a Windows Notification the other day while playing a game telling me about a "Grand prize giveaway" > Nope, not malware. Just Windows. Yeah, I got one the other day promoting some game or game studio. Honestly, there outta be a law. We don't need this kind of "innovation."

No, there shouldn't be a law, unless you intend to outlaw in-app advertising entirely, which will make a lot of people sad that there are no free smartphone games anymore, but okay.

Oh no, not the scammy casino games targeting children with advertising. What will we do without them? Some people might even be able to charge money for games without advertising instead!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> quickly found out that there is actually no way of running GOG on Linux But GoG is a website, not an application. The games they've ported/adapted to Linux work great, at least for me. I've never had the slightest trouble.

Clarified in another reply, I was referring to GOG Galaxy, the launcher that you would use to keep those games up to date, sync saves across systems etc.

Ah, OK. I've actually never heard of GoG Galaxy before, and so haven't ever used it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think parent meant ban all advertising - buses, billboards, TV, etc

I have to be honest, it doesn't change my answer. Advertising is a multi-billion dollar industry who spends millions yearly on figuring out how to manipulate us into buying things we don't need. The average person has no chance against this manipulation. So yes, burn it all to the ground.

Banning all advertising would also destroy many small businesses. Interstate billboards are a nuisance, no doubt, but I can’t tell you how many roadside markets, small restaurants, etc I’ve visited while traveling that I’d never have known about otherwise.

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post #177

Its time to move away from windows. We need Nvidia to fully support Linux.

No we don't. AMD has working GPUs with working drivers now. I have not rebooted to Windows for over a year and I probably won't for at least another one. All my games run just fine under Steam or with the help of Lutris.

> No we don't. AMD has working GPUs with working drivers now.

Oh, no, they don't! I'm forced to browse using Windows right now because the radeon driver crashes when I open new pages in Firefox. Most of the time it resets itself and I get the display back, but sometimes it crashes completely and I have to press the reset button.

(Gentoo, 5.15 kernel, Radeon HD 4250 onboard video)

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post #192

This is much more invasive than Google’s banner on search (and kind of everything they make) pushing to instal Chrome. And way worse than MacOS’ occasional prompt to switch to safari that I think happens once per version upgrade and is just a typical modal prompt. Microsoft acts like their OS is free. I paid $120 for this stuff.

> Microsoft acts like their OS is free Because it effectively is. Between the discounted OEM pre-installed copy (effectively free to the casual user), the people happy enough with "Please activate Windows" in the corner and most functions working, and the "I found a deal on a legit activation key with a steep discount" crowd, very, very few people paid even a tenth as much as you.

> the discounted OEM pre-installed copy (effectively free to the casual user)

Not free; just hidden. The retail laptop models I looked at last month discounted the price exactly ₹10K (~ 120 USD) when I chose the no pre-installed OS option.

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Being the IT guy for the elderly people in my family, these days 90% of the issues they are having is with the scummy shit that Microsoft is pulling constantly.

E.g. my mother even has Office 365 and still constantly gets offers to upgrade to Office 365 shoved in her face. With the pathetic shit that MS is pulling these days I wouldn't put it beyond them to somehow be able to sign up & pay twice for Office.

Can the people working at Microsoft chime in whether they feel any shame? I'm sure it's great for their metrics but it's shows 0% respect for users and also themselves. Some journalist should ask Satya how he feels about being the CEO of the largest panhandler organization in the history of mankind.

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Purpose of OS is to allow users to run software on it. However, Win 11 truly became "adware". When I got that "prize giveaway" notification too, I was surprised and disgusted that I'm being served ads from a software that I paid for. If this is the future, then I think they should have 2 versions. Free version with ads and paid version without any ads (with full control) or nagging (like asking user to switch to Edge…

> Free version with ads and paid version without any ads ...

The paid version you talk about does exist: LTSC Edition. It's just ridiculously overpriced out of retail viability.

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post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

can't you just install the enterprise version or whatever it's called. The real 'Pro'
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