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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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There's a learning curve parable about the fastest way to learn how to make quality clay pots. Team A focuses on making 1 perfect pot. Specifications, research, process, testing, verification, etc. They get pretty close with their initial pots, but they struggle to scale up. Team B just starts making pots. As fast they can. Make incremental tiny improvements. Most pots are total losses. But they do manage to start ma…

I would not bank on Kia or Hyundai... A large swath of of their engines made within the last decade or so have a reputation for not lasting within or much beyond the warranty period, which has lead to multiple class-action lawsuits. I have a Kia Sorento and overall it's a simple, honest car that's easy to work on and pretty well-built overall. But at 80k miles, the engine burns a quart every 1k miles which is entirel…

A lot of companies have major build issues. Honda had a batch of engine heads cracking and bad transmissions. Subarus are oil and had a long slew of head gasket issues. Sometimes you just goof a design in a way you can’t easily correct out of

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Finally! How long have they been working on it? Front casting is not an easy technique to pull off, but confers a lot of advantages. I expect it will come standard on new Teslas starting next year.

50% failure rate is going to result in a large number of defects leaking into production. You can’t screen that high a defect rate very well

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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I mean why is this news that a car can have defects? Are most tesla y from the same press like this?

There's a massive visible crack in a frame that you couldn't have missed if you're assembling the car... that's beyond defect to intentionally and actively contributing to harm. It's the same level of malice as knowingly installing an odd brick of brown putty in the steering wheel instead of an air bag. The worker clearly didn't know C4 doesn't belong in a car.

The crack may have grown or not been visible until it was covered up or moved into a position where it was not subjected to inspection

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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If this vehicle were truly unsafe to drive (according to US safety standards), what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed? Unless the user gets in an accident, is there a way to actually prove the frame is structurally defective?

> what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed? A lawsuit. That is what the legal system is for. But for some reason people seem to look down on this which I find baffling.

When you buy a Tesla, you agree to arbitrate all disputes with Tesla.

Including Lemon Law claims.

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The article says: > NK denied his car was ever involved in any collisions. And given that the owner took it to an official service center to check the issue I believe the service center would have detected if it was the result of a collision instead of: > The manager of the service center said multiple times that 'the car is safe to drive' and that he had been assured by 'engineers' that it is 'safe.' However, he wil…

IMO (and I'm not a materials engineer) my first thought was the car got ramped off a railroad track or something and landed hard, which basically took any stress in the materials that were already there and caused them to essentially "bubble up" in the form of visible cracking. Something like that most likely wouldn't be logged as a collision, but I think there would be other signs of that... Of course we're basicall…

If Tesla or their agents drop the car while delivering it, it's still their problem to fix it or take it back.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Ah, more confirmation (bias) making me doubt the wisdom of ever buying a Tesla in the future. I had a Model 3 LR as a company car and really liked it - even being fine with most of the usual concerns or dislikes people share. I even like the brand (although I dislike most of Musk's other shenanigans over the past few years). I've since given the car back and am considering purchasing a BEV in the future. I've obvious…

Given the pretty consistent advancement in batteries over the last 20 years, it doesn't pay to be in a hurry.

Between that and various automakers starting to produce, it's likely enough that a new 2027 will be cheaper and better than a new 2024.

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My bet is that becomes a scenerio where the party with the most money for lawyers wins. If it was me, I would have almost no money for lawyers.

Having recently dealt with this very situation. Lawyers are honestly not __that__ expensive for these disputes and NDA’s are largely unenforceable.

>NDA’s are largely unenforceable

source?

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I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.

The Mach E has a mere 40mi less range (290mi) and slightly better performance than the Model Y. They are also adding support for NACS (Tesla charger port) at some point soon. That's the only comparable EV that I know of at the price point, but there's definitely more.

Ford can't sell Mach Es to save their life, though, because they don't have ludicrous mode/800 HP/name appeal. Massive flop from Ford (and I say that as the biggest ford fanboy in this thread.)

You and I know that the ford is made much better for "less", for obvious reasons But ask yourself, who is going to buy a heavy electric SUV from Ford?

-a typical mustang GT buyer? No way.

-a person who currently has a model S/Y/3? fat chance.

-a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle".

-A ford Fan? I'll gladly take the f150 lightning over mustang.

I want to see the f150 lightning and similar really make a dent/impression.

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Who is calling them MAGAmobiles? A MAGAmobile is a lifted truck that rolls coal and has a huge lets go brandon decal

Teslas are being called MAGAmobiles now that Musk bought Twitter and has shown his love for rightwing disinformation and keeps replying to and platforming alt-right racists and other neo-nazi adjacent folks.

Maybe in some tiny bubble, not in the actual world.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Finally! How long have they been working on it? Front casting is not an easy technique to pull off, but confers a lot of advantages. I expect it will come standard on new Teslas starting next year.

What an extremely odd comment to make, given the context of the article. > Front casting is not an easy technique to pull off They're obviously not able "pull [it] off" if people are finding dangerous structural problems that Tesla is sweeping under the rug

I was joking, because the title reads like they’ve finally “cracked it”.
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