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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by thegabriele » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:14 PM UTC

DharmaPolice wrote: post #215

tempestn wrote: post #180

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To expand on what I take as your implied argument- Some (small) percentage of people are pedophiles, meaning they're attracted to children. Presumably they can't help that, just as others can't change their sexual preferences. Clearly acting on this urge with an actual child is wrong. That's true whether it's directly assaulting a child, or consuming child porn, as that market encourages others to exploit children to…

>Finally there is the argument from the perspective of fundamental morality, that depicting children in a sexual manner is wrong in and of itself, and therefore the various potential effects are irrelevant. (Much like it's wrong to murder an innocent, even if you could harvest their organs and save five others as a result.) I don't think those two scenarios are usefully similar. Murder is wrong because of its effects…

Murder someone without anyone dying is the plot of many, many videogames since the 80s

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by slantaclaus » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:15 PM UTC

majikandy wrote: post #218

Hit back and forward in the browser and you see other people’s generated image rather than your own without hitting the generate image button again.

Interesting. I’ve now seen the exact same image twice, about 10 minutes apart

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by PeterisP » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:22 PM UTC

dvngnt_ wrote: post #22

> Thanks to our advanced AI algorithms, you won’t tell generated humans from real people If the images posted are the best they can do, then i have some bad news from them

In the second photo I rolled, the generated human had legs that ended in hands instead of feet.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by danbruc » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:25 PM UTC

ThrowAway1922A wrote: post #181

stavros wrote: post #156

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> What exactly is the argument against AI-generated child porn? Currently? The fact that all the models need training data and the law will see that as victimizing the people who were used in the data set be they adults of children. Overall? The fact that it's disgusting and pedophiles deserve things which I can say IRL and everyone agrees with, but on HN will get me banned. Many countries ban underage anime porn too…

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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by lambdasquirrel » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:32 PM UTC

paint wrote: post #205

function_seven wrote: post #33

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I can count on one hand the number of ways these photos fail. That's right, 6 ways.

If you encode a binary digit for each biological digit on your hand you can count up to 32 on one hand.

Nono, these AI improvements mean that we can do 64 now!

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by keyle » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:36 PM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #155

mrguyorama wrote: post #131

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Looking at the poses, it feels optimized for generating porn, but one example someone showed had a child's face (good god please don't let your "AI" system generate child anything if you want to sell it for porn purposes), and another user noted that their attempt error'd out because it "detected nudity", even though other users get given a nude model by default.

I don't know if the thing in the crotch is a penis or a scrotum, but it is definitely NSFW: https://images.generated.photos/0wV1dBnZ15hGneEfqfZT7SdEIill... My prompt was simply "Standing in front of a rocket.".

Good thing you didn't ask for sitting.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by notahacker » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:43 PM UTC

dublin wrote: post #189

gwern wrote: post #9

If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

How it can look so good? ROFL!! It just created a guy with a hand coming off his left ankle in place of a foot, and toes or fingers or something poking out the end of the show on his right foot! https://generated.photos/human-generator/64e682308448b8000c5...

Four hands is much better for climbing industrial installations so you can hang in mid air next to them

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by rerdavies » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:45 PM UTC

I couldn't help noticing that half the female poses are seriously CFM ("Come hither"), whereas the male poses are The Thinker, or Man-spreading, or other things that manly men do. But then I tried generating some male images. Turns out that The Thinker can be seriously CFM as well.

For some reason, all the images I have generated so far are unexpectedly sexualized even I when i try to give it completely benign prompts. I don't think it's just me. :-/

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by caslon » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:48 PM UTC

ThrowAway1922A wrote: post #181

stavros wrote: post #156

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> What exactly is the argument against AI-generated child porn? Currently? The fact that all the models need training data and the law will see that as victimizing the people who were used in the data set be they adults of children. Overall? The fact that it's disgusting and pedophiles deserve things which I can say IRL and everyone agrees with, but on HN will get me banned. Many countries ban underage anime porn too…

I agree with you that porn is disgusting, and that the people who view it are immoral. However, there are a lot of arguments to be made against capital punishment, murder, and other forms of vigilante violence. No nation with capital punishment is a stranger to wrongful execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution

Encouraging state violence based on the fact that something is "disgusting" is not a good idea. Law needs to be grounded in concrete harm. The lines currently seem ill-defined, and existing laws in this area have been used against children (see State of Washington v. E.G., where an autistic child was charged and convicted with distribution of child pornography for taking a selfie and sending it to an adult).

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by wkat4242 » Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 11:48 PM UTC

thegabriele wrote: post #221

DharmaPolice wrote: post #215

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>Finally there is the argument from the perspective of fundamental morality, that depicting children in a sexual manner is wrong in and of itself, and therefore the various potential effects are irrelevant. (Much like it's wrong to murder an innocent, even if you could harvest their organs and save five others as a result.) I don't think those two scenarios are usefully similar. Murder is wrong because of its effects…

Murder someone without anyone dying is the plot of many, many videogames since the 80s

In the 80s you were "murdering" a handful of pixels. It's really not comparable. Neither In the 90s or 00s even though ever more pixels were involved.

I have to say though that this argument starts making a lot more sense with current VR tech. Sometimes it's really disgustingly realistic.

While I'm still not in favor of banning violent games, I do think a valid argument is emerging. I've never truly had a feel of fright playing on a 2d screen but since VR the spiders headcrabs of Half Life Alyx really make me panic sometimes.

On the csam side I'm just not sure if this would diminish or increase their interest. I would leave that up to someone who studied for this kind of insight.