TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

Post by throwaway1777 » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:06 PM UTC

hospitalJail wrote: post #212

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #199

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> Altman himself threatened (for a brief period) to cut off GPT to the EU after Italy rightfully brought up issues with data privacy. This wouldn't be a big deal. GPT is not some one-of-a-kind leaps-and-bounds ahead of everyone else ground-breaking technology.

Still in denial? I have a hard time understanding the people who visit this website and havent used the technology.

Post by gsatic » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:07 PM UTC

littlestymaar wrote: post #131

gsatic wrote: post #120

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All this while demand is not growing like it once was. Lot of these projects will bomb. And the west doesnt have docile easy to dominate labour that east asia has. They will never achieve the same margins. And as soon as China-Taiwan chapter is over, corporate robots will happily return.

> And as soon as China-Taiwan chapter is over That's a very strong prerequisite though… It may not be over for several decades to come.

Post by pokepim » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:10 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #140

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #112

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> the US has been talking about bombing TSMC themselves[] The U.S. said nothing of the sort. One Congressman, in the minority no less, did.

Of course there is a plan somewhere for this kind of thing, that's how war works. But an idiot fringe congressman spouting such things does not make a credible threat or say anything about the actual intentions about the country, just a good way for somebody to get attention or some points from one hardline group or another.

Post by jupp0r » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:12 PM UTC

dav_Oz wrote: post #178

For those unfamiliar with the region (Saxony, Dresden): A registered association ( e.V. in German) bluntly named "Silicon Saxony e.V." (est. in 2000) with over 450 members headquartered in Dresden pretty much sums up the infrastructure and ambition.[0][1] As pointed out the process TSMC’s 28/22 nanometer planar CMOS and 16/12 nanometer FinFET process technology (fabrication will begin in 2027) is not "cutting edge" b…

Post by pokepim » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 3:13 PM UTC

coredog64 wrote: post #171

photochemsyn wrote: post #153

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The stated reason for delaying the fab construction is a lack of skilled labor in the USA, which does make sense - that's what happens when you hollow out domestic manufacturing in the name of increased corporate profits from outsourcing. > "“There is an insufficient amount of skilled workers” with the expertise to build a chip factory, TSMC chairman Mark Liu complained during a call with analysts. The executive warn…

Insufficient at the price TSMC is willing to pay for all those hours. The neighborhood around ASU in Tempe, AZ is chock full of fabs that have been built or expanded recently. Please take the “hollowed out workforce” to a different discussion where it actually applies.