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32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

sandworm101 wrote: post #187
junon wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I'm your target demographic but I always appreciate folks who make their hardware accessible like this. Thank you :)

Who is the target demo? I'm old enough to have had actual newspapers appear on my doorstep. I ever saw anyone mount them on a wall, at least not in a private home. I would think a table/tablet orientation would be more appealing than an awkward wall mount. Is this thing meant to be art, a bit of faux-nostalgia decoration?

I think people definitely do mount significant newspaper and magazine covers. The advantage of this, of course, is that it changes daily.

It's part function, part art piece imo. I can imagine somebody who's fairly well off drinking their morning coffee whilst reading this on their wall. A statement piece for the guests at their fashionable dinner parties too.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by gcanyon »

Are (large) e-ink displays expensive because of lack of scale in manufacturing? Or is there something inherently expensive about them? This display is literally almost ten times the cost of a generic 4K monitor, which has color, a higher resolution, and a 60 hertz refresh rate.

The only advantage here is the reflective display and the ultra-low power consumption. I'm not saying that there aren't use cases where those could be critical/decisive, but given the cost differential it seems like the decision between the two is effectively automatic: the products don't compete, in the same way an SUV doesn't compete with a Cessna: if you need to fly, you buy the plane; otherwise the car is a no-brainer.

I ask because I would love to have a second monitor like this display: easy on the eyes, distraction-free, etc. But at this cost it's a ridiculous non-starter for that purpose.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by macintosh-hd »

foobarian wrote: post #205

Do e-ink screens require periodic refresh to keep the image? I was wondering if it's possible to load an image and remove power.

Nope. I’ve had a tiny one connected to a raspberry pi that is still displaying an image over a year after I unplugged it.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by junon »

sandworm101 wrote: post #187
junon wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I'm your target demographic but I always appreciate folks who make their hardware accessible like this. Thank you :)

Who is the target demo? I'm old enough to have had actual newspapers appear on my doorstep. I ever saw anyone mount them on a wall, at least not in a private home. I would think a table/tablet orientation would be more appealing than an awkward wall mount. Is this thing meant to be art, a bit of faux-nostalgia decoration?

I think it's clear this isn't supposed to solve a problem. The article describes it pretty clearly as more of an art piece than something of function.

There are definitely people who would like this in their homes. Probably multiple.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by danderoo »

veegee wrote: post #211
jayvoordemensen wrote: post #155

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Hey! It's Jay, I'm a journalist and developer and I've done most of the work on the front and backend of Project E Ink. Happy to answer your questions! So what we've done: we're indeed running our own Visionect servers these devices connect to. We've build a friendly and news-centered frontend so the display shows news, updates on new editions (or a user-set timeframe), or forgets about newspapers altogether and disp…

If Docker is in any way _required_, it's still a dealbreaker.

You like to have it signed by RMS personally?

(Nothing against the FSF, but "dealbreaker" is a very relative concept.)

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by eli »

gcanyon wrote: post #222

Are (large) e-ink displays expensive because of lack of scale in manufacturing? Or is there something inherently expensive about them? This display is literally almost ten times the cost of a generic 4K monitor, which has color, a higher resolution, and a 60 hertz refresh rate. The only advantage here is the reflective display and the ultra-low power consumption. I'm not saying that there aren't use cases where those…

I chatted with the guy from Visionect about this once and he said that it was basically all about scale. There is massive demand for the panels that go in those generic LED monitors and many huge factories dedicated to making them.

The eink display looks gorgeous, by the way. But it's not a computer monitor and doesn't claim to be.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by ildon »

I love the concept and I'd be willing to pay for the high price no questions asked if the device included all the backend needed to display images. Given the high price I'd expect this to be self sufficient. I truly hope a soon to come interaction of the product will include such a feature, so that setting the target URL by connecting to the device (via localhost or similar) will make this work.

My best scenario would be: - plug it the first time, a new wifi network is made available - connect to the wifi and visit the locally hosted config page, which includes the wifi network to connect to and the URL to fetch - the screen restarts and connects to the wifi and, if internet works, fetches the URL - at any time, the screen can be configured if connected to the same wifi network (might require an app) - a physical button resets the screen to the factory config

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by sandworm101 »

junon wrote: post #224
sandworm101 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is the target demo? I'm old enough to have had actual newspapers appear on my doorstep. I ever saw anyone mount them on a wall, at least not in a private home. I would think a table/tablet orientation would be more appealing than an awkward wall mount. Is this thing meant to be art, a bit of faux-nostalgia decoration?

I think it's clear this isn't supposed to solve a problem. The article describes it pretty clearly as more of an art piece than something of function. There are definitely people who would like this in their homes. Probably multiple.

If it is going to be art, I'd use some more creative content than daily newspapers. A series of fictional newspapers would be better. I would much rather it display a the front page of the Gothem Times with the latest Batman v. Joker news. Even realworld historical headlines would make for a better conversation piece. Older monochrome front pages would also probably look better on such as display.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by eli »

jayvoordemensen wrote: post #155
hau wrote: post #78

This screen comes with a subscription based cloud CMS. The only way to pass image to this display semms to be through a proprietary application which is this so called CMS. There are no other connectivity options mentioned. You are unable to use this screen if: - subscription is not paid - company decides to terminate your subscription under any condition of your contract - company decides to sunset software or a pro…

Hey! It's Jay, I'm a journalist and developer and I've done most of the work on the front and backend of Project E Ink. Happy to answer your questions! So what we've done: we're indeed running our own Visionect servers these devices connect to. We've build a friendly and news-centered frontend so the display shows news, updates on new editions (or a user-set timeframe), or forgets about newspapers altogether and disp…

Is that compliant with Visionect's licensing? Their site says "A license is needed for every device." I don't doubt that it technically works.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by sandworm101 »

mym1990 wrote: post #219
sandworm101 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is the target demo? I'm old enough to have had actual newspapers appear on my doorstep. I ever saw anyone mount them on a wall, at least not in a private home. I would think a table/tablet orientation would be more appealing than an awkward wall mount. Is this thing meant to be art, a bit of faux-nostalgia decoration?

Harry Potter fans possibly :)

If they got the actual newspaper animations and such from the movies, THAT would sell. An e-ink Harry headline, or wanted poster, would be something that any potter fan would seriously consider.
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