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Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by silisili »

lapcat wrote: post #38
prakhar897 wrote: post #26

Bluesky is dead. Nobody is going to move again. They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. Whatever they release now, will never get initial users to get it off ground.

> They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. I don't think that's a fair criticism. Threads is backed by a $750 billion market cap megacorporation, while Bluesky just announced a seed round of $8 million, a mere drop in the bucket for Meta. https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/7-05-2023-business-plan

I know it's cliche here to ask why things cost so much, why so many employees needed, etc.

But give any competent engineer and friend 8 million, and they'll build you a Twitter on steroids in 6 months.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by didntcheck »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #198
devjab wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can come up with a range of issues as to how this will eventually fail for some people, but what is a better alternative?

DHT based naming systems (GNS, IPNS, Tor Onion names), Blockchain based naming systems, Web-of-Trust style naming, there's lots out there.

Relevent concept: Zooko's Triangle [1]: it's hard to have a naming system which is decentralised and secure against spoofing without giving you long and random (or hashed) names, like with .onion services

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko%27s_triangle

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by hkt »

It is always a little bit bizarre to see things like this. Domains are generally for organisations, for good reason: they cost money to acquire, they're globally unique, and they cost money to run.

Identity is a funny thing, and certainly online it is ambiguous because most of us think of it as being in some way absolute: we have our identities regardless of context, and we want our technology to reflect that.

I'd argue in reality our identities are functions of association. Groups we're part of, etc. Online identity as-is is like that, but with a feudal relationship between the "domain administrators" and the people who associate with them.

The right answer isn't to atomise identity (that's technically pretty hard to do anyway) but to make those identity-and-means-of-communication hosts into bonafide associations, owned by their members, operated for their benefit, and operated as constitutional democracies with rights to protect minorities and elections to the organisation's board, committees, or key executive positions.

We in tech need to get past the idea that the social problems that have emerged from the internet have technical solutions. Maybe some do, but the vast majority do not.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by n42 »

elif wrote: post #83

Ideologically these Twitter exodus communities will become even more microcosmic than the presumed "alt-right, redpilled" ideology they purport to escape. Twitter may be these things in part, but by being a direct reaction away from these things, the new networks will become necessarily more niche and specialized ideologically. In the same way that the ideological specialization of Twitter is not helpful for its grow…

using big words doesn’t make this intellectual. people want to make jokes and have light hearted conversations with others without hatred spewing everywhere. it’s pretty simple.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by didntcheck »

aroman wrote: post #156
netheril96 wrote: post #121

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So is "Threads" in my opinion. But I downloaded Threads regardless.

wait really? i thought "Threads" was pretty genius. it's a social network where people post threads. people already know and use the word "threads". you post tiktoks on tiktok, reels on reels, and threads on threads.

It's entirely happenstance, but I like the accidental reference to BBC Threads (the nuclear war TV film). Not only is it a "post apocalypse" evacuation site to many people, but the opening narration of the film muses on how society depends on the "threads" between us and others. Essentially describing the network effect that social media platforms live and die by

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by didntcheck »

agnosticmantis wrote: post #163
botanical wrote: post #103

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Probably as in you can move your account to another server seamlessly. Mastodon also relies on "centralised" servers; none of them are p2p

Isn’t that federation?

Just federated identity, like OpenID. It doesn't necessitate distributed systems with communicating backends, like Mastodon or Usenet, just that it allows the user to bring their own IdP and therefore to have "sovereignty" to verify their own identity across platforms. The alternate route is to have users cryptographically certify their registrations post-hoc, e.g. Keybase

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by gls2ro »

layer8 wrote: post #214
gls2ro wrote: post #157

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IMO social media websites lives or dies by network effect if threads get hundred million people in a short period and they start to write and interact with each other then that a good moat for them. Might be that BlueSky is not trying to be a popular social media platform. But if they want to then having right now their signup closed is a very bad decision. It is already hard to keep track of where each discussion is…

Yet users use HN, Discord, and many other forums. I think "there can be only one" is what's misguided.

I did not say there should be only one. My assertion is that there are so many that the piece of the pie that remains for blue sky if the keep this invite only idea will diminish as time goes by.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by luch »

threeseed wrote: post #183
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #127

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My Threads feed is full of massive brands promoting itselves already. Since you can't control the feed those are basically free ads. The only major difference will be that in the future those brands will be paying Meta for the privilege. Get the brands addicted with free engagement early on and then once they're good and hooked you start charging.

The chronological feed is coming soon at which point that will not be an issue. And as mentioned you can simply Mute/Block them. But there is going to be a year or more of Threads being ad-free whilst Twitter is not. That's a game changer.

> The chronological feed is coming soon

Not it won't. Facebook removed the chronological feed 10 years ago, they won't reintroduce it in Threads.

"Curated" feeds is how they get announcers to pay for visibility since the user has no control over what it is displayed at a given time

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by [deleted] »

tsimionescu wrote: post #144
devjab wrote: post #133

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Identity management is the biggest issue with social media. I'm on mastodon, but my "identity" is tied directly to the server instance that I'm on. If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity". If my "identity" was tied to a domain I owned then keeping it would be as simple as changing a few DNS settings. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's actually going to be an…

Except of course when for whaetever reason you won't be able to pay your DNS provider for some time, and you'll lose your identity to someone else. DNS is really not a good platform to build personal identity on.

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Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by ranguna »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #203
blitzar wrote: post #188

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> Threads is just an empty website in the EU right now. And it should stay that way. Not launching in the EU is a massive red flag on the data hoovering ambitions facebook have for threads.

> Not launching in the EU is a massive red flag on the data hoovering ambitions facebook have for threads Not really. It just means they don’t want to wait for EU compliance to launch. It’s fairly standard to have an EU lag for feature releases, in the same way there is a lag for releasing certain content in Asia or financial products in the United States.

> fairly standard to have an EU lag

For obvious reasons, like the reasons the person you replied to mentioned: privacy violating features block apps like Threads from entering the EU market.

That's a good thing.

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