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Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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Post by chrischattin »

oxfordmale wrote: post #148
imdsm wrote: post #122

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I mean, to say crypto has no real use cases is wrong. A lot of people are against crypto, and I can understand that, the whole cultural side of it is tough to digest. But if you strip away all of that: the twitter bots, the airdrops, the spam, the shills, the whole cultural lot, and you just look at the core, there are real use cases. Buying the pizza with bitcoin was the first proof. That being said, I can understan…

Buying pizza with a bitcoin? Is that the only use case you can come up with? Electronic money, instead of paper or coins, is there to stay. However, bitcoin is a very poor implementation of this. The mining alone has contributed significantly to the earth's yearly electricity consumption.

I bought a car with Bitcoin while the banks were closed on the weekend.

There are tons of legitimate use cases. However, most of them aren’t immediately apparent to affluent people in the United States as it solves problems most of them don’t have.

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Post by thaw13579 »

SanderNL wrote: post #171

Yes. I think we just witnessed something akin to the birth of personal computers which puts us around the ‘60-‘70s. It’ll take a while to (vastly) improve and eventually disseminate into society. I’d say a decade at least. A lot of the surrounding “infrastructure” is still missing, like in the olden days. Techies are scarce and needed for other things. Energy and thus compute is expensive and society still has some i…

Today’s LLMs like ChatGPT also might seem like mainframe computers compared to the personalized and locally-run models that are likely in the future.

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Post by cromulent »

Zambyte wrote: post #200
kspacewalk2 wrote: post #174

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Typically "use case" means not just something a technology can do, but something it's better at than the common alternatives, in some way that matters. Not so with blockchain and financial transactions. Everything it treats like a bug is in fact a valuable, critical feature (i.e. reversibility and tracking). So if grandpa overcomes his tropey Luddite ways and goes from cash to card, he's arrived at the best technolog…

People love to claim that NFTs can only be used for signed pictures of gorillas, but imo they are probably one of the most interesting utilities on a blockchain. Have you ever tried to buy a ticket through ticket master? It's not a wonderful experience. Digital event tickets could be sold directly from the venue to the attendee without any of the hassle of TM. Tickets that are non-fungible (ie an assigned seat at an…

Sure, but is there any reason this cannot happen without NFTs?

I have bought assigned seat tickets online direct from venues without TM nor NFTs, worked fine.

I have also bought tickets to exhibitions (no seats nor assigned time) direct from venues online without TM nor NFTs, worked fine.

Seems that the only problem is TM and you won't make them go way with NFTs.

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Post by digitcatphd »

This just happened to me. I was explaining it and I am starting to feel like a crazy conspiracy theorist and AI doomer when I explain how it can more or less write and script and solve any problem. Then I see how people use it, and they can barely articulate elementary concepts, let alone break them down or solve them. I feel like being able to use GPT right now requires an ability to do this, which is probably why. Let alone most people aren't even using GPT4. They type in some barely coherent instructions to GPT 3 and then dismiss it as hogwash.

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Post by ethanbond »

danpalmer wrote: post #176
ethanbond wrote: post #127

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> it's only the people outside tech who were into crypto This is obviously not true. There was a lot of skepticism within the tech world but also a LOT of hype and hubris, even coming from some of the most important (even if not most credible ) voices in the industry like Andreessen.

With the context of the parent comment, the way to read my point was: > of the people outside tech , it was only the people who were into crypto (etc) who are into AI. I hoped this would be clear, especially given that the next paragraph talks about my thoughts on people in tech. Apologies if it wasn't clear enough.

I see now! My mis-read. I thought the latter paragraph was just regarding skepticism of AI.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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Post by ldhough »

piva00 wrote: post #52
kitsunesoba wrote: post #34

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The majority of my usage of ChatGPT as a dev has been to synthesize examples of APIs/tools/etc in usage when those aren't easy to find and/or when documentation is sparse/scarce.

Same to me so far, synthesise or summarise examples of tools I'm not familiar with to then explore the documentation. Lately I've been using it quite a bit for Arduino on a ESP32 board, I had toyed around with Arduino previously but since I got this board for a small hobby project it's been great to ask ChatGPT to generate some examples of the kind of data I want to read from a few sensors. Even when it hallucinates…

I have noticed that there is a decent amount of regional (esp Salvadoran) slang that native Spanish speakers I know use that it doesn't recognize. This isn't a huge problem and it is still incredibly useful though, as learning a few random slang words isn't exactly a challenge.

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Post by carlosjobim »

DebtDeflation wrote: post #206
sensanaty wrote: post #138

Definitely. The tech is impressive but anyone I've spoken to thinks of it as Cleverbot 2.0, and among the more technically minded I've found that people mostly are indifferent. Hell, IRL most people I know don't think much of it, though on HN and elsewhere online I see a lot of people praising it as the next coming of Christ (this thread included) which puts it in a similar tier as crypto and other Web3 hypetrains as…

>puts it in a similar tier as crypto Comparisons between AI and crypto are horribly misguided IMO. Is AI overhyped? Sure. However - AI/ML is creating utility everywhere in our lives - speech to text, language translation, recommendation engines, relevancy ranking in search, computer vision, etc. and seems to be getting embedded in more and more processes by the day. Crypto never amounted to anything beyond a currency…

> Crypto never amounted to anything beyond a currency for black market transaction

Do you understand what a massive impact that has been? It has disrupted one of the largest industries on the planet, which is drug trafficking.

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Post by moneywoes »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #201
sensanaty wrote: post #138

Definitely. The tech is impressive but anyone I've spoken to thinks of it as Cleverbot 2.0, and among the more technically minded I've found that people mostly are indifferent. Hell, IRL most people I know don't think much of it, though on HN and elsewhere online I see a lot of people praising it as the next coming of Christ (this thread included) which puts it in a similar tier as crypto and other Web3 hypetrains as…

Certain personalities and communication styles are able to generate useful prompts. A 10% efficiency boost that some programmers are experiencing could translate into an extra 5 weeks off if you are smart about it, so it is quite life changing for some.

Or fewer employers

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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Post by moneywoes »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #210
simpli wrote: post #208

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Increased efficiency doesn't translate to increased time off, just increased expectations from our bosses :)

There are ways to get way faster at completing tasks without increasing the expectations with no change in pay.

Could you elaborate
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