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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by KMnO4 »

mptest wrote: post #89
wardedVibe wrote: post #65

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not really, it'd be outside the garden wall, and thus not monetizable by reddit

Can reddit issue requests to archive or whichever site is used to do it and have them taken down ? Or worse yet, rebuild their deleted history from the archives and THEN issue takedowns? I am realizing I have no serious idea how archival of digital content works legally.

When Reddit owns the delete button, they control what happens when you press it. There’s no need for them to rebuild their deleted history. It’s still there (even if it’s inaccessible to the world)

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by goykasi »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #189
goykasi wrote: post #135

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What is missing in the official app? And how many mods are using a mobile app rather than a desktop env? A desktop browser seems like it would be infinitely better than a mobile experience.

can you tell me how to view posts as a gallery? can you also tell me how to create a link with username and subreddit below a post and when you click it, it takes you to the sub or the users profile? Such a simple thing...

Im not sure. Are those moderator functions? I was curious about the OPs statement regarding missing mod functions.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by fencepost »

What's so sad about this is how easily it could have been avoided. Reddit could have done their equivalent of Musk's blue checkmark push and actually succeeded by simply requiring a paid user account for third party API access. Plans and pricing would have been implementation details to hash out, but they literally had everything they needed for it already in place.

Instead they came up with a half-baked approach that's a terrible fit for how apps in the Apple and Android ecosystems are allowed to charge and gave developers 30 days to be ready for it - or ~75 if you want to be generous and go back to when they said "hey, we were wrong a few months ago, we are going to a paid API after all." Sure Narwhal has negotiated an extension (the developer declines to say anything about it, but he's not eating months of API charges) while he prepares a completely rewritten version of his app that will work with the new subscriptions. *slow clap* I wish him well.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by esperent »

GuestHNUser wrote: post #162
kaibee wrote: post #149

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I tried to make a lemmy account on my phone in between errands. Couldn't figure it out. I'll give it a shot on desktop, and I want a reddit replacement, but I wonder how many other people are gonna go to the same effort. Maybe that's a feature though, an escape from eternal September.

I joined kbin.social and have been pleasantly suprised with it. Everything I'm subscribed to there is slow moving at the moment, but frankly I find that pace refreshing. I've seen threads remain active for several days, which doesn't seem to happen anywhere else.

I tried to make a kbin.social account several times, and also lemmy.world, lemmy.social.

They all take several minutes work to fill out the form, and then another few minutes waiting. Then they hang with no error message. It's tedious and I've given up trying to sign up for any of these new fedi-reddits.

EDIT: ok, after reading some more of this thread I decided to have one more try. Sign up on squabbles.io took 2 minutes. Yay!

EDIT 2: information density is so low on squabbles. Also, they already block all NSFW content - I'm not looking for porn, but I am looking for a community where people are free to share whatever kinds of content they like, including stuff that I don't like. There needs to be strong boundaries - nothing illegal, no racism etc. But the boundaries should be as broad as possible. Besides, NSFW means a lot more than just porn. Are we allowed to share dirty jokes there? Or important but horrible videos exposing war crimes?

A community that decides to block all of this from the very beginning is not what I want. Although I can understand their reasoning and honestly if I was running the site I might we'll make the same decision.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by tech234a »

WefWef [1] is a Lemmy client that looks and feels very similar to Apollo and even supports importing the data exports created by Apollo. It feels almost native despite being a web app. For anyone looking for a Reddit/Apollo alternative I would recommend checking it out.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36488016

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by 8bitsrule »

GeoCities redux.

Corporations don't like communities unless they can profit. One day the Greater Community will arise as a non-profit under the control of its contributers.

"The community literally helped this site grow to what it is today by engaging with and creating content, creating communities (sub-reddits), and moderators who assisted in developing those communities for free." -- https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14kjohc/n...

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by shagie »

bentcorner wrote: post #186
shagie wrote: post #82

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I'm not sure how much of a whim Reddit had. A Virginia law was signed into effect on May 12th that required commercial entities that distributed "material harmful to minors" to verify the age of the users or be exposed to civil penalties. That law goes into effect in 3 hours.

There's no possible way this is the cause. Like, at all. The simple sniff test is that blast radius of the passing of this law would be way way way larger than "reddit charges for API". We'd see many other sites follow suit with reddit. IANAL but I'll put down $100 that this law has nothing to do with reddit's API changes. First person to prove me wrong gets it. I'd like a quote from spez that says, paraphrased "If V…

The announcements that they were going to charge for API access was in April. https://www.redditinc.com/blog/2023apiupdates . Mature content being restricted was mentioned in https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/12qwagm/an_update_r... and in https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe... it was stated that Imgur also banned sexually explicit uploads the same day.

While "yes, that was April, the law wasn't signed until May", it passed 96-0 ( https://legiscan.com/VA/votes/SB1515/2023 ) in February and the recommendations from the Governor to change it was rejected on April 12th.

The timeline of when that switchover would happen was at the end of May when 3rd party developers said that they wouldn't be able to continue past June 30th.

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I don't believe that the change was "Virginia Law -> do all these things" but rather "these things are in motion... Virginia Law -> several of these things in motion must be done by July 1."

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