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Ah, so just like the US then!
Zip code depending of course.
Actually, it's mostly down to how you address them.
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Would you say the choice of the word "genocide" here is because it's the most accurate description of what's going on? Or is it chosen for rhetorical/propaganda effect without too much concern for accuracy?
Not the person you're responding to, but it is an accurate description of genocide under its current meaning as defined by the UN (probably the most authoritative body on this kind of matter). https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml What the Chinese are doing there is covered under Article II, c. If you are being pedantic by holding fast to the literal Greek translation of "geno" and "cide" then, well…
There is no authoritative body on the definitions of words. More generally, if genocide can mean "not killling, but very bad" then it is not much use except as an epithet - a negatively-loaded bomb to be lobbed in partisan debates at people who you think are doing something very bad. Virtually every controversial policy could be described as, "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to" some group.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you say the choice of the word "genocide" here is because it's the most accurate description of what's going on? Or is it chosen for rhetorical/propaganda effect without too much concern for accuracy?
Not the person you're responding to, but it is an accurate description of genocide under its current meaning as defined by the UN (probably the most authoritative body on this kind of matter). https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml What the Chinese are doing there is covered under Article II, c. If you are being pedantic by holding fast to the literal Greek translation of "geno" and "cide" then, well…
It's absolutely not. There's a reason US propaganda under Pompeo had to manufacture and launder reports with tortured legal interpretation to try to get the genocide label to stick but couldn't because there's no intent to destroy, hence useful idiots trying to be pedantic and argue how enforcing family planning reflect intention even though that applied to Han majority, or mass (temporary) internment / inflicting "pain" somehow equivalent to physical destruction while population continues to grow.
Modern definition of genocide at UN explicitly wouldn't categorize what PRC is doing in XJ - cultural genocide - because members, especially west went out of their way to ensure cultural genocide would have little legal ramifications, otherwise Canada would have been sanctioned to death for self professed cultural genocide a few years ago. Incidentally the entire reason Pompeo tried to propagandize genocide label was because it would trigger diplomatic ramifications at UN. What the PRC is doing in XJ is cultural genocide, and bluntly that’s permissible thanks to lobbying from the west.
The entire manufactured genocide narrative is so retarded because if PRC wanted to, they could just... commit genocide. At PRC scale they can wipe out the 12M Uyghurs in a few weekends on the cheap instead of wasting trillions of RMB trying to sinicize them.
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#224I was wondering about simply using VPNs, which is not mentioned in the article at all, but checking GFW on Wikipedia, it tells: > The use of VPNs in China can provide individuals access to the international internet, but in China, it can be a potential legal risk. In 2017, the Chinese government declared all unauthorized VPN services to be illegal.[94] An example of the use of this punishment is Vera Zhou, a student…
More context about this WikiPedia excerpt: → https://www.chinafile.com/extensive-surveillance-china → https://www.rfa.org/cantonese/news/student-01272020075256.ht... It looks like 周月明 (Vera Yueming Zhou) was sent to a Chinese concentration camp mostly because she was part of a religious minority and not necessarily for using a VPN to access the University of Washington’s website. > Vera was living in her hometown of…
That's the thing about "illegal but everyone does it"...it's nothing to worry about until the government decides it's convenient to enforce (against an individual or group), and then it's definitely something to worry about and it becomes a low barrier pretext for all sorts of oppression.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not the person you're responding to, but it is an accurate description of genocide under its current meaning as defined by the UN (probably the most authoritative body on this kind of matter). https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml What the Chinese are doing there is covered under Article II, c. If you are being pedantic by holding fast to the literal Greek translation of "geno" and "cide" then, well…
There is no authoritative body on the definitions of words. More generally, if genocide can mean "not killling, but very bad" then it is not much use except as an epithet - a negatively-loaded bomb to be lobbed in partisan debates at people who you think are doing something very bad. Virtually every controversial policy could be described as, "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to" some group.
The definition, US propaganda under Pompeo as head of State tried (and failed to meet), was UN's convention on genocide, which would trigger legal responses on member states. The TLDR is Pompeo laundered very tortured legal analysis through Zenz and some Gulanist Saudi think tank (IIRC) to try insinuate PRC met the definition when most credible international lawyers saw through the bullshit, but noted PRC actions closer to cultural genocide, which does NOT have definition at UN, and hence not prosecutable. The result is PRC actions merely labelled as potential human rights abuses at UN, aka business as usual, and a bunch of useful idiots who ate Pompeo's bait thinking PRC actually met the definition of genocide when it manifestly did not. And buy business as usual, of human rights abuses / cultural genocide, it puts PRC XJ actions in league with behaviours of the west. Hence you don't hear much about the XJ campaign anymore from western propaganda, because the propaganda was mostly useful if the genocide label stuck at UN, and made PRC actions more nefarious not equal to west. Now it's mostly used by US to justify XJ sanctions and trying to partners onboard to cripple XJ industry like solar, cotton, agriculture.
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Police in America don't control residents. How was your nap, Mr. Van Winkle? 2020 wasn't a great year in the US. You were better off spending it asleep, trust me.
Don't flatter yourself. Nothing happened in 2020 that hasn't happened a lot worse, a lot more times before in America. If anything, the police were surprisingly ineffectual at protecting the owners' interests. I'll step out and burn a flag all day long in the street. They ain't gonna arrest me. I've seen the police publicly flog random people on the street in Vietnam just for being in their way. What a wonderfully ju…
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We can look at russia arresting random foreign nationals for bullshit reasons right now.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/brittney-griner-russia.html
She did commit a crime by travelling to Russia with an illegal substance, for which she got roughly the same sentence as a typical Russian would get if caught with a similar amount of drugs. This case doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary, except for the "criminal" being a famous foreigner.
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using ssh for proxying is getting blocked within the first minute.
Could be a use case for X-Windows with ssh -X [0]? (so your web browser is actually running outside the GFW, it's just the window updates that are coming over the SSH tunnel). [0] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forwar...
any ssh traffic that does not look like ssh traffic (few bytes send to server, some more bytes returned) gets either terminated or slowed down to a crawl
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that's mentioned at the end of Page 17. The author tells it's a short term solution: "This is merely a stopgap measure, as the censor can enable their censorship for UDP." It doesn't seem that there are any (long term) solution to bypass the rules ...
It does seem like this GFW scheme can be tuned to severely degrade the reliability of any unapproved high entropy traffic. However, this single scheme doesn't cover many other types of circumvention traffic, several of which are noted in the beginning of the paper. This scheme primarily applies to "fully encrypted" traffic - not SSL/TLS, etc. So for now, circumvention can live on, but this explains to everyone using…
all https traffic to servers outside of china gets slowed down to a crawl after the first MB of send data.