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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by cellularmitosis »

electrondood wrote: post #216
macNchz wrote: post #61

Reddit’s mobile web experience really embraces this–even as a logged in user there is a frequent “Use our app!” popup that has been made progressively more obnoxious. Once upon a time there was a preference option to disable the popup, though it would periodically become unchecked on its own. Then the option to disable it disappeared. Then the popup started appearing not just on page load, but after a period of time…

Forcing you to download the app for any sub marked NSFW, whereas you previously only had to click to confirm your age, is bullshit. I'm well aware that the reason you want me to download your app has nothing at all to do with the reason you're claiming, and as a user it just pisses me off.

What is that reason? (someone driving metrics to get a promotion?)

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Post by DropInIn »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #151
DropInIn wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a blind person use a QR code? Not like they can see where the camera is pointing, let alone locate the code in the first place.....

The staff or someone with them scans it upon request.

So blind people are required to give a stranger thier unlocked phone?

Really, there's not a single thing that can be said to make it less stupid.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by sshine »

TheAngush wrote: post #186

I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

Your expectation was that this information was free, and you got offended when you realised they trade in information and you have to pay with giving some back?

This is not a dark pattern any more than giving a company like GlassDoor this information is a dark deed.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by roughly »

fwlr wrote: post #53

The IP-level block you experienced after trying to get around the login modal is an anti-scraping measure. I doubt it is based on anything like “detecting that you’ve opened web inspector”, it’s much more likely that Instagram is running some heuristic that tries to bucket you into either “potential signup” or “scraper trying to download as many images as possible”, and once your behavior pattern fits into the second…

Insta definitely uses IP blocks to force login walls, but I don’t think it’s anti-scraping, because the limit seems to be like 3 images before you get redirected to log in - it’s way too low and too much of a pain in the ass to normal users to be intentionally anti-scraping and unintentionally anti-logged-out-users.

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Post by mcpackieh »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #195
notfed wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Just modify part of your URL bar every time you click a link to Reddit" falls into "F you".

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

This is even worse. You can't trust either Mozilla or Google to vet the extensions they publish for spyware. So you have to trust and/or verify that this extension does what it says and no more. But worse, you have to vigilantly watch the extension for any changes, even if you trust the developer today he may sell it to a spyware company at any time.

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Post by [deleted] »

cellularmitosis wrote: post #221
electrondood wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forcing you to download the app for any sub marked NSFW, whereas you previously only had to click to confirm your age, is bullshit. I'm well aware that the reason you want me to download your app has nothing at all to do with the reason you're claiming, and as a user it just pisses me off.

What is that reason? (someone driving metrics to get a promotion?)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by Mordisquitos »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #151
DropInIn wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a blind person use a QR code? Not like they can see where the camera is pointing, let alone locate the code in the first place.....

The staff or someone with them scans it upon request.

Ok, done! The QR code encodes the URL to download a 19.8 MB beautifully designed menu in PDF format. Now what does the blind person do?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

TheAngush wrote: post #186

I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

Dev tools, look at the html and body element, and uncheck overflow:hidden. Plus a strategic delete or two on the DOM tree.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by luuurker »

Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn redirect me to the login page without ever showing me the content. I guess they don't like my ISP. Since I'm not going to create an account, now I just avoid their links when searching for something.

Last year (I think) Twitter started showing a login/registration popup as soon we started scrolling. Not as bad, but the popup wasn't dismissible (now it is), so for a while I also stopped clicking on Twitter links.

Reddit also hides some subs on mobile and requires us to install the app... that same sub is available on old.reddit.com (or the now discontinued i.reddit.com).

I started using extensions that redirect these services to better front ends. Twitter → Nitter, Reddit → Old Reddit or Teddit/Libreddit, etc. I do the same on my phone (Android and Firefox, I don't think you can do the same on iOS).

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