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Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by pmoriarty »

klipklop wrote: post #117

Spez assumes he has more power than Reddit users. He is likely right. Sadly. I wish people would just stop using that site and go back to web forums, but that is never happening. The average person enjoys the convenience of consolidation under one corporate overlord. I assume the ipo will allow him to eventually join the (multi-millionaire?) billionaire class. One would assume he would fight tooth and nail to make th…

> The average person enjoys the convenience of consolidation under one corporate overlord.

It's not that. Reddit is where much of the community is today, much like Usenet was where the community was in the 90's.

People are going to go where most people are. Unless something can replace those network effects, nothing's going to change.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by azangru »

xigoi wrote: post #210
azangru wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it needs a git reset hard back to the days when communities were based around forums What's stopping anyone today to have a community around a forum? phpBB still exists...

The network effect. Everyone is on Facebook/Twitter/Reddit, so nobody will visit the forum.

But then, how can one argue for a git reset hard, if it seems that people are willingly preferring places where everyone is over the places where only someone is?

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by PythagoRascal »

johnboyega wrote: post #96

server costs money and reddit is not charity either. If they provide a good product that you use everyday, then why cant they charge for the api?

For not being a charity they seem to gladly accept a lot of free volunteer work and free content created for them.

I'd say in terms of value to the platform they got a great deal.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by jrflowers »

What an odd post.

In the same post ostensibly meant to posture strength and solidarity they go out of their way to point out that there is a good chunk of people that simply cannot live without reddit dot com (in this case a subforum about stopping drinking and a subforum about the war in Ukraine).

These groups have not, can not, will not move away from Reddit. Not only is there no real long term plan in general, there isn’t even a bandaid short-term plan for vulnerable groups.

As far as I can tell the only “alternatives” on offer are slightly varied copies of the Reddit UI offered by a cornucopia of strangers, each fancying themself as the newer, better, more generous and thoughtful versions of the Reddit founders.

It’s a veritable chorus of virtue from a group of people that will read “violentacrez” and knowingly scoff at it even being mentioned, or will Google “violentacrez” for the first time and start writing a defense of their favorite website.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by tirpen »

tut-urut-utut wrote: post #108
gary_0 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tumblr went from selling for $1B in 2013 to $3M in 2019. The brand persists but as a business it's a dismal failure. If Reddit follows that arc it will be a dismal failure as well.

Why should we care if it’s financial failure for its owners as long as it brings the same value to its users?

If it's too much of a financial failure, it will shut down and provide zero value to its users.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by buildbot »

mattmanser wrote: post #127
bredren wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Enough with the ChatGPT already. If you didn't write it, don't post it.

I’d support instant bans for drivel like this, it’s somehow way more annoying than low effort/meme comments.

Like, we get it, you can type shit into a chat interface hooked up to a LLM. So can we all.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by djvdq »

INTPenis wrote: post #146

This whole model of social media in today's internet is unsustainable. We will undoubtedly move towards a future internet with two main camps. The corporate social media where users have to either pay to play, or be locked into walled gardens without their consent, or sometimes even knowledge. The other camp will be various decentralized platforms such as the fediverse and others. We had a relatively quick (in histor…

There's good article about it: https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/18/23672769/social-media-ine...

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by johnnyanmac »

eBombzor wrote: post #190

If they wanted to inflate their user numbers before the IPO, why didn't they just buy Apollo or the other apps?

They bought a 3p app called Alien Blue way back in the day... and proceeded to do virtually nothing beneficial with it. So I don't think they understand the value of proper UX for power users.

Moreover, that's part of the problem: they aren't inflating user numbers, they want to inflate revenue stream. And for whatever reason it was easier to try and force everyone into the app than to try and get ad streams setup in 3p apps. so that's why the cards are falling this way.

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by lmm »

mjburgess wrote: post #56

The first 10 years of the internet were volunteers creating for other volunteers. The next 10 was volunteers for 'users'. The last 10, for corporations. The commons built in the 90s was turned into a playground in the 2000s and is now a oil well being mined by megacorps. What, I hope, interest rates are doing is shifting the balance of power to its natural point: the commons is owned by the volunteers. Megacorp's abi…

As far as I can see Wikipedia has even worse relations with its users/contributors than twitter/reddit/facebook/et al..

Re: The Reddit blackout will continue

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Post by johnnyanmac »

anon-3988 wrote: post #149

If they want this to be effective they should provide an alternative. Because people still want to "reddit".

I agree. The bigger mods should try and pick a community and slowly migrate there. That's the hardest part of fostering a new community and the mods have some leverage to help sheapard that.

But I imagine for many mods the goal isn't to truly leave reddit. So there in lies the grind. I've been done for years and want to really make a jump, but I don't think many mods want that end result.

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