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Nearly 20 years ago we used to install monitoring software to tell if a user's mouse or keyboard hadn't been used in a while. More and more places use traffic inspection "for security". Desks now use sensors to tell when warm bodies are near. Doesn't matter whether you're working from office or in the home, surveillance is here to stay. Good businesses should only care if work is getting accomplished. Bad businesses…
Nearly 20 years ago we used to install monitoring software to tell if a user's mouse or keyboard hadn't been used in a while. More and more places use traffic inspection "for security". Desks now use sensors to tell when warm bodies are near. Doesn't matter whether you're working from office or in the home, surveillance is here to stay. Good businesses should only care if work is getting accomplished. Bad businesses…
Honestly lots of people are doing miminal hours WFH, not just IT, all office workers. I think companies really dont know what to do about it.
What’s there to do? If the work is getting done then enjoy the morale boost.
At least that's how it's where I live in Europe. Companies feel entitled to the full 8h per day of productivity so if you know everything out in less then that they want to see it and give you more work to fill the remaining time, which Is why WFH is very rare and in office work is the norm here (Austria).
Every time one of these stories comes out I sigh a little and conclude that it's more showing the failure of modern management practices and the legal environments these companies are required to operate in than anything about employee responsibility. Companies should be judging their people by results. If someone's performance is acceptable then all of these surveillance metrics don't matter. If someone's performanc…
Two things can be true at once: my employee can be delivering good results, and my employee can deliver even better results. Just because an employee is delivering results doesn't mean that is their maximum potential.
The other thing you're not considering is the fact that management has a responsibility to maximize productivity with the workforce they have. Where you see management failure, I see managements responsibility.
Now, none of this means there aren't poor managers (I've had those), nor does it mean that the solution is straight up surveillance. What I am saying is as someone who does manage, and as someone who does pay employees, this issue isn't nearly as cut-and-dry as you're making it out to be.
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Which business are in you that doesn't benefit from more work / more efficient work?
Why is the business entitled to more work if the work you're already getting done suffices to make the bosses happy?
2. If they are already happy, why are they installing spyware?
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Is there a concept equivalent to US, salary employee? If so what are they expected to work?
In the EU you should not be asked to work more that the maximum hours defined in the European Working Time Regulations. There is usually a range in these directives so member states can choose to go to the high or low end. But there is a range that has to be put into law for each country. Basically you shouldn't lose your job for refusing to work more hours than are defined in the regulations, if you do there is a tr…
They say you can opt in or out at any point by providing a written request to HR, but defaulting to opt out at the point when all the power is with the company (the candidate is signing the initial contract, and may not want to rock the boat) seems wrong IMO.
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What’s there to do? If the work is getting done then enjoy the morale boost.
Which business are in you that doesn't benefit from more work / more efficient work?
You ever heard the saying: it takes 1 engineer 1 month to do a task that takes 2 engineers 2 months to do
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Some people don’t want to work. They’ve told me so. I think UBI would destroy these people, like easy wealth does to the newly rich. A better solution is to focus on worker’s rights and labor regulations. Of course that opens the internationalism question, but so too would ubi.
Huh, UBI has its own moral panic. Never thought I would see that, but it seems obvious in retrospect. Both capitalism and communism worship work like some insane religion. If you work, you are a good person. If you don't, you are scum.
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> Quit the bad ones, join the good ones. This is why universal income is extremely important, so that people can pursue better jobs without risking being vulnerable.
Some people don’t want to work. They’ve told me so. I think UBI would destroy these people, like easy wealth does to the newly rich. A better solution is to focus on worker’s rights and labor regulations. Of course that opens the internationalism question, but so too would ubi.
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Why is the business entitled to more work if the work you're already getting done suffices to make the bosses happy?
1. They are paying you for your time. Or, they think they are. 2. If they are already happy, why are they installing spyware?
2. HR departments and poor managers making busywork to justify their existence.