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Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by InCityDreams »

s3p wrote: post #213
isomorphic wrote: post #114

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The thing is, if I was somewhat interested in a Mozilla VPN service, this spectacularly idiotic decision to deploy full-page intrusive advertising into Firefox makes it 100% certain I will never buy the Mozilla VPN service--because, how can I trust that they won't do the equivalent to that service? What's to stop them from blocking certain sites (on the other side of the VPN) as part of some promotion? Or worse? They…

I see what you're saying but.. it's one popup. Maybe you can't, but I can live with that.

Slippery slope has people scared.

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ilikepi wrote: post #214
Dylan16807 wrote: post #208

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They could have hard coded it, would that have been better or worse in your view?

Hmm...if you mean, would it be better or worse if they distributed the Looking Glass add-on in an automatically installed update, I think that would be...roughly equivalent? I feel like they're breaking some sort of implicit social contract: my browser shouldn't automatically install add-on software not foundational to its operation that I didn't ask for. If you mean would it be better or worse if they did a more tra…

> my browser shouldn't automatically install add-on software

I mean if it wasn't an add-on at all. If it was a piece of javascript or even C++ contained directly inside the program, that triggered on the same about:config setting. A traditional easter egg.

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by ilikepi »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #222
ilikepi wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm...if you mean, would it be better or worse if they distributed the Looking Glass add-on in an automatically installed update, I think that would be...roughly equivalent? I feel like they're breaking some sort of implicit social contract: my browser shouldn't automatically install add-on software not foundational to its operation that I didn't ask for. If you mean would it be better or worse if they did a more tra…

> my browser shouldn't automatically install add-on software I mean if it wasn't an add-on at all. If it was a piece of javascript or even C++ contained directly inside the program, that triggered on the same about:config setting. A traditional easter egg.

I would say that would be worse. Presumably there would be no way to remove it without patching the source.

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by mozman »

warkdarrior wrote: post #105
mozman wrote: post #88

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This is the correct answer

Why would Google try to prop up Firefox as a competitor? Both Safari and Edge on desktop are twice the market share of Firefox, so the browser market is competitive enough without Firefox. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...

It is plausible that it's part of a broader antitrust litigation defense strategy

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by nulbyte »

johnsea wrote: post #148
nulbyte wrote: post #97

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I wanted to like Firefox. So much so that I used to carry my keys on a Firefox branded lanyard. Eventually, I gave up and switched. Presently, Im trying Brave. I don't really like it, but I'm now at the point where I don't think there is such a thing as a user-friendly browser anymore.

What don't you like?

In no specific order: the new Proton UI, Pocket, overemphasizing Mozilla's VPN, innocuously-sounding by sometimes privacy-invasive 'studies', automatic updates, the archane method of disabling automatic updates despite having a built-in configuration UI, having to restart the browser in the middle of my workflow due to automatic updates I did not want in the first place. In general, I get the feeling that Mozilla has adopted Reddit's business model of trashing their product by contuously fixing what isn't broken.

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by johnsea »

nulbyte wrote: post #225
johnsea wrote: post #148

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What don't you like?

In no specific order: the new Proton UI, Pocket, overemphasizing Mozilla's VPN, innocuously-sounding by sometimes privacy-invasive 'studies', automatic updates, the archane method of disabling automatic updates despite having a built-in configuration UI, having to restart the browser in the middle of my workflow due to automatic updates I did not want in the first place. In general, I get the feeling that Mozilla has…

Thanks. Oh, I misunderstood you ;-) and thought you were talking about Brave. I stopped using Firefox quite a while ago and settled on Brave. Some config is needed but it works (very) well for me.

Re: Mozilla stops Firefox fullscreen VPN ads after user outrage

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Post by nulbyte »

johnsea wrote: post #226
nulbyte wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In no specific order: the new Proton UI, Pocket, overemphasizing Mozilla's VPN, innocuously-sounding by sometimes privacy-invasive 'studies', automatic updates, the archane method of disabling automatic updates despite having a built-in configuration UI, having to restart the browser in the middle of my workflow due to automatic updates I did not want in the first place. In general, I get the feeling that Mozilla has…

Thanks. Oh, I misunderstood you ;-) and thought you were talking about Brave. I stopped using Firefox quite a while ago and settled on Brave. Some config is needed but it works (very) well for me.

Brave is okay. I don't like that copying a URL on mobile requires one tap, while everywhere else you tap and hold to select. I also hate the tiles that replaced the list of "tabs." And I don't like the fact that it's based on Chromium.
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