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Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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I'm increasingly p1ssed off by the name "OpenAI"...

How dare someone use the holy and sacred "Open" prefix for something that isn't blessed by the OSS mafia.

Maybe you don't know the history of this company. Which is fair because I literally had to find this on archive.org

https://web.archive.org/web/20190224031626/https://blog.open...

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And to Google and Amazon and GitHub and Slack and 100 other SaaSs. Not sure why openai is supposed to be more of a concern.

Because whatever you send to ChatGPT may be future training data for their AI model. Mixing up your data with other customer's data is not really part of Slack's business (yet?).

True, but ChatGPT on Azure OpenAI never did: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-services/o...

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Let’s not pretend Google search is what people mean when they say “cloud.” It’s about running internal processes on external systems. As to the risks, many companies live and die by their internal secrets. These range from a private keys, customer lists, trading strategies, and similar trade secrets to actual serious R&D efforts. Sometimes the damage is obvious such as crypto exchanges suddenly finding themselves bro…

Again, how do you know that somebody doesn't put something sensitive into the Google Search bar?

While theoretically possible for something bad to happen, short phrases are much less likely to have actionable/sensitive info in them than the full document corpus of a company.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?

With Google Docs, MS Office, Atlassian etc you get a real software product with engineers paid ~$300k per year to fix bugs.

With ChatGPT, you get researchers paid over $1m per year [1] to use you as a training data source and ship stuff with basic bugs and then "feel sorry" when stuff breaks: https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/23/openai_ceo_leak/

Another position for those like Samsung: preventing ChatGPT use encourages incubation of internal competing solutions.

[1] https://davidgoudet.medium.com/how-did-this-ai-scientist-end....

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?

From TechCrunch on March 1, 2023: "Starting today, OpenAI says that it won’t use any data submitted through its API for “service improvements,” including AI model training, unless a customer or organization opts in." So prior to that, they were willing to use your data for model training. Every service may have leaks/security issues, but few say they'll purposely use your data. OpenAI probably should've promised not…

They could still have an oops and use your data anyways. E.g. how Apple copies features from successful iOS apps.

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I appreciate your apology as it sort of came across that way. I'll give you a real-life anecdotal example to expand a little on my point. My buddy is a front-end developer for a company which produce pretty basic "stuff" (sorry, I don't know anything about front-end) according to him. He says that he's gotten lazy and unmotivated to do anything about it. This leaves him unchallenged and he doesn't really like his job…

Perhaps the fact that I work exclusively on the front-end is why I also derive tremendous value from GPT-4, and I have been perplexed by others saying they find no value in GPT-4 for coding. There is so much boilerplate BS that GPT-4 just nails down and lets me move on to bigger things. Just yesterday, I needed to mock up a quick prototype for a new feature we're developing. I just paste in my existing React componen…

Don’t you have your own templates?

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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That’s because OpenAI can use any data that you send to chatgpt for training purposes. [0] They don’t do it with their APIs btw. “(c) Use of Content to Improve Services. We do not use Content that you provide to or receive from our API (“API Content”) to develop or improve our Services. We may use Content from Services other than our API (“Non-API Content”) to help develop and improve our Services. You can read more…

"We do not use Content that you provide to or receive from our API ("API Content") to develop or improve our Services." That sentence does not claim OpenAI does not use such Content for other purposes besides "developing and improving the Services". For example, using the Content in a manner that potentially harms Samsung's business. What does "develop or improve our Services" even mean? There is no definition. Third…

When I go to settings there is an option:

> Save new chats to your history and allow them to be used to improve ChatGPT via model training

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As somebody who is completely puzzled why you could think that the cloud is a terrible bet for many companies - are these companies allowing their employees to use Google Search or other parts of the internet or do they have to look up things in paper books in the corporate library?

Let’s not pretend Google search is what people mean when they say “cloud.” It’s about running internal processes on external systems. As to the risks, many companies live and die by their internal secrets. These range from a private keys, customer lists, trading strategies, and similar trade secrets to actual serious R&D efforts. Sometimes the damage is obvious such as crypto exchanges suddenly finding themselves bro…

How many companies do you think have people who know security as well as Azure, GCP or AWS (disclaimer: my employer)?

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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post #86

I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?

From TechCrunch on March 1, 2023: "Starting today, OpenAI says that it won’t use any data submitted through its API for “service improvements,” including AI model training, unless a customer or organization opts in." So prior to that, they were willing to use your data for model training. Every service may have leaks/security issues, but few say they'll purposely use your data. OpenAI probably should've promised not…

Through their API is different than using their web based interface where you specifically have to opt out of allowing them to use your chat for training.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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post #86

I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?

> Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs?

We are not to use any third party cloud hosted software that is not approved to store proprietary information.

There are only three external SaaS companies that I am aware of that we use that stores anything proprietary.

We are not even allowed to take pictures of the whiteboard because the pictures can be synced to external cloud storage providers.

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