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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by alkonaut »

nprateem wrote: post #145
alkonaut wrote: post #76

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That would give way WAY too many false positives. If I'm watching on the bus while my wife watches at home it would trigger. Similar if we have 2 homes etc. It would also rule out anyone using VPNs etc. Seems like a complete no-go and would see a huge chunk of paying users go simply because the product is now much worse for people who are not sharing accounts. That just can't be it.

They probably also fingerprint devices as well and correlate those times the devices are in the same area, etc. With user agents/device IDs, IPs and time you can work out quite a few relationships.

If I'm ever blocked on some fuzzy reason I'd leave the service in a heartbeat. If they have clear rules then at least I can somehow learn to avoid the traps, such as having to connect from an IP or having a specified number of devices. But if I can get kicked out of the service right before/in the middle of a game, then I'd quit my subscription in a hurry. They just can't use some method similar to how financial fraud is detected. But while fuzzy rules don't fly, I can't see any rigid rules that also wouldn't be a hassle for paying customers.

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Post by jfengel »

iamsaitam wrote: post #173

The movie "The Green Knight" came into Germany's Netflix recently. An English movie about an Arthurian legend and you can only watch it in German without any subtitles. Ludicrous. Can someone shed some light on the regulations in practice regarding subtitles? As an expat living in Germany, there's plenty of times that the offerings have no subtitles in English and are dubbed. Do they have to pay more license fees to…

If it helps... you're not missing much. The movie is incoherent even in English, and a deep understanding of the source material.

It's a fascinating and beautiful artistic experiment, but I don't think it's a successful one. A viewer might well enjoy it better without dialogue, because the dialogue doesn't really make it any clearer.

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Post by pjc50 »

lockhouse wrote: post #202
rerx wrote: post #152

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Compared to competitors, Apple TV+ currently appear to put much more emphasis on quality over quantity in their original content. I really enjoyed some shows like Severance, For All Mankind, Trying, Acapulco, Foundation. It reminds me of the time when Netflix Originals stood for content to be excited about. What they don't have is a back catalog of licensed films and shows included with the flat rate offering (they a…

Mythic Quest is hilarious as well.

I'm still amazed that a series sposored by Ubisoft can be such a sharp satire about the games industry.

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Post by moffkalast »

WelcomeShorty wrote: post #218
ryan-allen wrote: post #147

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It's often of poor quality and not in 4k. I rented a movie from YouTube the other day and the stream supported HDR, and if I had a 5.1 surround that would have worked, too! If you're not watching 4 hours of TV per day it's not that expensive to rent content, but I'm saying this from the point of a westerner. For other parts of the world a $5 USD for a movie for 48 hours doesn't make any sense over straight up piracy.

YouTube hit me worst: I rented my all time favourite movie "Where eagles dare" and got it voiced over in French... Never again will I rent / buy anything from YouTube, ever. Either Netflix has it, or down to pirate bay it is.

...Merde.

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Post by gandalfian »

Will this mean future Netflix only works for people with a permanent home broadband service with a fixed ip address to identify as their home? I mean if you use mobile internet for your broadband, hidden behind cgnat and school or public wifi networks how will they differentiate between you and someone freeloading off your account?

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Post by streakfix »

aembleton wrote: post #198
streakfix wrote: post #38

Let me add a couple 100 more to that count. Did you know that netflix doesn't support resolutions higher than 720p on windows/linux? You could subscribe to the 1080p plan (like me) and the players will stream 720p videos to you with no indication whatsoever. The only way of checking the netflix video resolution is `document.querySelectorAll('video')[0].videoWidth`. There are FF extensions but they don't work for ever…

If you can't tell that it isn't 1080p, does it really matter?

If you can't tell if your friends are harassing you, or messing with you in a playful way, does it really matter?

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Post by yowzadave »

rerx wrote: post #152
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

Compared to competitors, Apple TV+ currently appear to put much more emphasis on quality over quantity in their original content. I really enjoyed some shows like Severance, For All Mankind, Trying, Acapulco, Foundation. It reminds me of the time when Netflix Originals stood for content to be excited about. What they don't have is a back catalog of licensed films and shows included with the flat rate offering (they a…

Severance was great! I watched For All Mankind and Foundation, which both had great production values but were hurt by cheesy storytelling and sometimes iffy acting.

I'd love to see TV+ try something more experimental.

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Post by tomjen3 »

pajko wrote: post #66
alexdunmow wrote: post #27

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Interesting you say that the content doesn't appeal to you anymore. I feel the same way. My observation is that, for the most part, most of Netflix's original content is reality TV and comedy specials. They don't even seem to be bothering to create great content like Stranger Things anymore. We are at the enshittification of Netflix stage.

Somehow good shows tend to get cancelled, and it's not worth starting to watch something if it's likely going to have the same fate. https://decider.com/list/canceled-netflix-original-shows/

That and one of the great benefits of Netflix was that you could watch multiple seasons of a show, and that a season was 20 ish episodes.

Now they do 7 episodes and call it a season and frequently their shows only have one or two seasons.

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Post by tomjen3 »

ricardobayes wrote: post #103
alexdunmow wrote: post #27

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Interesting you say that the content doesn't appeal to you anymore. I feel the same way. My observation is that, for the most part, most of Netflix's original content is reality TV and comedy specials. They don't even seem to be bothering to create great content like Stranger Things anymore. We are at the enshittification of Netflix stage.

I feel the same way, it's becoming harder and harder to find something interesting. Just the other night we opened it up and couldn't find anything in 5 minutes browsing and just went to watch TV instead. That's not the experience you want your users to have.

Not in the long term, but in the short it means you save bandwidth fees.

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Post by airtag »

The_Colonel wrote: post #15
teruakohatu wrote: post #12

> The move was linked to a fall in users of more than a million, two thirds of whom were using someone else’s password > Subscription cancellations in the first quarter tripled compared to the previous period, according to Kantar’s research. Of all remaining Netflix subscribers in Spain, one-tenth said they planned to unsubscribe in the second quarter. So they lost 300,000 paying users whom they think will come back,…

> I think the issue is that people who are paying for an account they are sharing are likely to keep the account active so their family members can continue watching. When the family are cut off, they cancel. That's the case for me indeed. I myself basically stopped watching Netflix, somehow the content doesn't do anything for me anymore. But I shared my account with family and they watch it. If this gets to us, and…

My situation exactly. We're sharing a 4 screen account with 3 friends and no-one even watches netflix every month - we just liked the idea of having access, in case we want to watch something. We already decided, when netflix doesn't allow low-use sharing any more, we'll just cancel and forget about it.
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