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Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

It really perplexes me that there isn't any Internet Outrage about fetishisation of young Japanese girls; cartoons or otherwise. As far as I can see it's the one area of DEI that gets a free pass. It's really creepy.

Tells you something about the seriousness about the whole DEI thing.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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This is weirdly relevant -- I made some funny soviet-style propaganda posters the last few days and it happily let me generate them for Gaddafi, Putin, Kim Jong-un, etc. but when I wrote Xi Jinping it rejected it. I tried "general secretary of CCP" but the results weren't even remotely resembling Xi Jinping, so I assume they even removed him from the training data.

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Similar would also be illegal in Thailand under Lèse-majesté. Political satire of the old King in particular would be unwelcoming to many Thais which held him in an esteem above such things. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it wouldn't also be culturally unacceptable and alienating.

The difference between the king of Thailand and Xi Jinping is that the former is basically a cultural institution, while the latter is a political figure who uses repression and censorship to consolidate power. Xi's power grab is not part of some Chinese cherished cultural tradition - it's just a power grab, and probably viewed as such even within the party.

>"he former is basically a cultural institution"

Cultural my ass. It is as political as it gets. Just do a search on Lèse-majesté in Thailand. Here is one from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9_in_Thai...

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

> ridiculing politicians in China is taboo You mean the Chinese politicians that are in power right? Chinese propaganda ridicules constantly politicians from other countries. Obviously this is just a well calculated move. It's acceptable to mock certain kind of people/groups. That's all there is to it. We don't need to go into Chinese psychology.

This is what can happen when you ridicule Macron in France:

"She currently stands accused of "insulting the president of the republic" and will stand trial on 20 June in Saint Omer, the prosecutor said. She risks a prison sentence and a fine of €15,000 if convicted at the trial." - [0]

Looks like they are learning from the best.

[0] - https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/03/30/heres-the-story-...

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

Why would you conflate the rights of free political expression (about an authoritarian dictator, no less) with the regrettable compulsions of anime porn obsessives?

David Holz should be criticized for this decision not to allow satire of Xi Jinping, and harshly.

Xi Jinping at pride parade, by the way: https://twitter.com/hardmaru/status/1642326687751733251?s=20

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

#227

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

It's not taboo, just politically sensitive and dangerous for Chinese citizens because it can get them in trouble. Some like the Chairman but not all of them do.

Today the objection is with jokes about the Chairman. Tomorrow it'll be content about Tiananmen. The day after it'll be about the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward, etc. If it were that simple, perhaps Google would have done it long ago. The demands of the Party are never clear and never end.

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This is worth a flagging. I'm not on this site to look at pedo nonsense. Try making a point without actually linking a source.

It’s not pedo nonsense. Twitter doesn’t allow that. It’s just women. If women make you uncomfortable don’t click.

Yeah, it wasn't a link to some sketchy site, it was to twitter, as an example.
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