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Pause Giant AI Experiments: An Open Letter

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Post by ChatGTP »

juancn wrote: post #156

Stopping now would be extremely dangerous and borderline stupid. If you stop now, you're just left behind, because there's no way everyone will stop. At this point the only logical course of action in an adversarial situation is to double down and keep researching, otherwise some other country or culture with different (and possibly worse) values ends up dominating the technology and you're left behind in the dust. T…

If you have time, I really think this short segment from an interview with Max Tegmark is worth a watch [1]. This particular clip is about autonomous weapons.

It's quite relevant to your argument, interested on your thoughts.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4j4KPwNGM

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Post by tucnak »

reasonableklout wrote: post #200
knrdev wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wonder what sparked this. Being left behind. Losers want to catch up.

You think Yoshua Bengio, Turing laureate for deep learning and one of the masterminds behind the last decade of AI advancement, is a "loser who wants to catch up"?

Yes

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Post by larve »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #191
larve wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The message is "pause training for a few months so we can figure out how to approach liability, safety and regulation". You are fighting a strawman.

Fair, thats really what I meant to type, but its still an impractical demand. Most entities pursuing this aren't going to stop training because some high profile people asked them nicely.

I think the value in these kind of letters is about spreading a message, building a community and allowing people leaving their signature to "formalize" their position, in a sense. It doesn't cost very much to do it but has a wide reach.

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Post by xg15 »

> Signatories:

- Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, Tesla & Twitter [and ex-co-founder of OpenAI]

- Emad Mostaque, CEO, Stability AI

- Victoria Krakovna, DeepMind, Research Scientist, co-founder of Future of Life Institute

Some people had made comparisons between the Crypto hype and the current AI wave.

I think I have to hand it to the crypto people that they are at least internally consistent and honest with themselves: I think many genuinely believe the tech is adding something good for the world. Others are grifters, but at least they know they are grifters and stick to it, I guess.

Meanwhile, statements from AI leaders lately remind me of some psychotic axe murder from a Stephen King novel, who yells "Stop me! Stop me! Why won't anyone stop me?" while running through a crowded street and swinging his axe.

If this tech has such potential to destroy humanity as we know it, and it's so important to keep it in check, why did you develop it in the first place?

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Post by xg15 »

andrewmutz wrote: post #114
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #67

I'm really disappointed to see the HN reaction of straight up scoffing at this like it's irreversible and so let's just step on the gas. It's some weird combination of techno-utopianism and nihilism and good old elitism.

You can accuse everyone of *isms, but there are a lot of us who have just never been persuaded by the many articles written to scare us about the effects of AI. The concerns about all the jobs going away have been persistent but the labor market continues to be extremely strong. As long as entrepreneurship is creating new business opportunities and new ways to turn labor into value, it's completely possible that the…

> But social media is already terrible and we need to do something about it regardless of that.

So then instead of finding a solution to those issues, let's instead focus all resources on a tech which will make the issues worse...

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Post by deepakparyani »

ptrinh wrote: post #218

On one side, a super AI could take all human jobs. On the other side, a super AI could do all human jobs. Everything becomes so abundant that it's almost free: Unlimited supply, limited demand. We don't have to work anymore and only focus on things that make us happy. A true socialist future. We are scared just because it's a radical change. Let's not afraid, fellow human.

As Naval R. said, only the non-creative jobs would be overtaken by AI in the near future. So, anyway chill..
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