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I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't even really matter what the US regulations are. If a firm in the Philippines can run Midjourney for pennies to generate content that would take hundreds or thousands of dollars in illustrator costs, there's simply no way to mandate labor protections in the US that would keep customers from outsourcing the work. The gradient is just too strong, and you can't keep a pedigree on every image you publish that o…
We’re creating a new global average standard of living with disastrous consequences. The poor areas rapidly gain wealth but at great cost to the environment and the whole thing is dependent on a never-ending fire hose of capital and tech transfers from the “wealthy” areas. The wealthy areas, already unable to offer many citizens the ability to raise a family, are desperately engaging in extreme financialization, ludi…
FWIW you are not crazy. I completely agree with every part of your comment.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the conversion we need to have is about how to stop it, its about what we do with all the unemployed artists, accountants, journalists, truck and taxi drivers. Do we pay half of them to dig holes, then pay the other half to fill them? We just need to keep the economy wheel turning while everybody finds new meaningful work.
They just move into the more AI resistant sectors of the economy (putting a big downward pressure on wages for those remaining jobs of course).
Who's going to pay for those remaining jobs?
E.g. currently mostly the middle class pays for home improvements, which creates jobs for construction workers. Remove the middle class and there's a lot less demand for construction workers - so what are the IT people turned into construction workers going to do?
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 1. Accept that professions come and go. 2. Expect jobs to disappear every decade or so and plan accordingly. 3. Look forward to an awesome new job after your current one is made obsolete. That goes for all of us. What can we do? Hope to save enough to not go into more debt for a second degree? Hope that second degree isn’t obsoleted either? As AI becomes more advanced the minimum education and likely IQ required to…
The solution is the same one we should have had from the start: take some of the responsibility from peoples careers off individuals and place it on society. As mentioned above, this has always been a problem it's just that now it's a problem for intellectual careers and not just laborers. Education (and re-education) should be at least affordable if not completely free. Unemployment benefits should be enough to live…
You’re taking a central planner’s view of a decentralized system. You can’t say “here’s a problem; let’s just make it go away.”
We are going to print so much money. I don’t see how bumping up capital gains taxes are going to change anything.
People will plow extra help into speculative bubbles. Casino thesis.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#225The lack of empathy the HN community has really shines through in many of these replies: > There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. > And nothing of value have been lost. > LOL at the reply a couple posts down, where OP admits they work at a mobile shovelware sweatshop.
Wait till more developers are being affected and their pie in the sky ideas about the future don’t come true. I promise you the tune they’re singing will instantly change.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the conversion we need to have is about how to stop it, its about what we do with all the unemployed artists, accountants, journalists, truck and taxi drivers. Do we pay half of them to dig holes, then pay the other half to fill them? We just need to keep the economy wheel turning while everybody finds new meaningful work.
They just move into the more AI resistant sectors of the economy (putting a big downward pressure on wages for those remaining jobs of course).
The low wages cannot go any lower. As it stands, poor workers in the US already don't make nearly enough to survive. They just keep increasing their debt until they either climb the ladder or die of an overdose or some other tragedy.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just wish I was part of the first generation to benefit from post-scarcity, and not the generation that is going to have to go through the turmoil of getting to post-scarcity.
the generation that went thru the industrial revolution would have said the same thing, except they'd wished they were in your position today. People just don't realize how good today is compared to the past - and of course, how good the future would be (nuclear war notwithstanding).
The fact that the industrial revolution created better life for most people doesn't prove an AI revolution will do the same.
The classical counter-example are horses - the industrial revolution increased the demand for horses, but once the cars became cheap horses numbers and jobs drastically decreased.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't even really matter what the US regulations are. If a firm in the Philippines can run Midjourney for pennies to generate content that would take hundreds or thousands of dollars in illustrator costs, there's simply no way to mandate labor protections in the US that would keep customers from outsourcing the work. The gradient is just too strong, and you can't keep a pedigree on every image you publish that o…
We’re creating a new global average standard of living with disastrous consequences. The poor areas rapidly gain wealth but at great cost to the environment and the whole thing is dependent on a never-ending fire hose of capital and tech transfers from the “wealthy” areas. The wealthy areas, already unable to offer many citizens the ability to raise a family, are desperately engaging in extreme financialization, ludi…
>> The poor areas rapidly gain wealth but at great cost to the environment and the whole thing is dependent on a never-ending fire hose of capital and tech transfers from the “wealthy” areas.
While I sympathize with your angst at the coming future, a future where the US isn't the highest, I see that for most of the world your prediction is both highly desirable, and inaccurate.
Firstly, let's dispel the great-cost-to-the-environment myth. The US has done, and continues to do great harm to the environment. Indeed many developing nations are skipping the harmful phase and embracing new tech like solar , better urban planning and so on.
Also, while it's fun to posit that thd globe depends on US capital, there's a bigger picture in play. TikTok is developed without western capital, suddenly its a surveillance risk (because Facebook and Google wouldn't spy on me).
Sure there's environmental cost to development, but complaining about the environment of others is a bit rich for the US (as it approves drilling in Alaska). The US accounts for 25% of global emissions, and about 5%ish of thd World population.
So yeah - you want your job yo be remote? Be careful what you wish for.
Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney
#229Thought the top comment is insight too re the whole AI thing:
>In a society that judges a persons worth purely on their economic contribution it's going to be a disaster.
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