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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by genocidicbunny »

miloignis wrote: post #176
genocidicbunny wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it's not updated yet, but I don't see AMD in that list.

In the blog post they indicate that they will be supported: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-gen-in... Optimized for Linux We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 will work fantastically out of the box for both the 13th Gen Intel® Core™ and AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series models. We have thorough setup and troubleshooting guides and will contin…

Ah that is very good to hear. Windows 11 is looking non-viable more and more these days, and I'm due for a hardware refresh too.

I might find myself ordering one of these.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by JonathonW »

BeefySwain wrote: post #107
vanilla_nut wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The customization goes further than just yes/no to the number pad. Looks like a whole "Input Module system" that could open up opportunities for different keyboard designs (DVORAK, various locales, maybe different switches?). I love this idea, excited to see what folks do with it. Makes me think of Apple's Touchbar nonsense -- why force a number pad, or a second touchscreen on folks who don't want one? Such a good it…

https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/qmk_firmware If this is anything to go off of, then it seems like they are going to support embedding full QMK enabled input devices. Extremely exciting!

They're using QMK on their prototype keyboard and numpad input modules (which are RP2040-based internally).

The interface for input modules to the rest of the computer is "just" USB 2.0, so you could put just about anything there that'll fit in one of the input module form factors. Although high resolution, high frame rate touchscreens are probably out because of bandwidth constraints (since it is only USB 2.0).

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

znpy wrote: post #220
vladvasiliu wrote: post #142

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Not OP, but in my case, I'd love an HS part without a dGPU. I'm typing this on a 5650U and its integrated GPU is overkill for what I do. Hell, until a year ago, I used to daily drive an i5-6500 with an HD530 with a 4k display and I never felt limited by the GPU. But I do use the CPU from time to time, so a beefier part would be useful. I would rather not pay for a dGPU which I'd use maybe 1% of the time, and which wo…

i don't play videogames and i don't do ai/ml, video editing or whatever. i spend most of my time in firefox and in terminals. i do use virtual machines quite a lot to test stuff around, so high cores count and high memory would be a plus for me. but an nvidia gpu is a deal breaker for me. I just don't want it. I don't need it, i don't use it, it just makes the whole thing less usable. and it draws a lot power that i'…

I mean, in a laptop, you dont use the dGPU on battery unless its for compute, period. It should just be sitting there turned off (which indeed means you dont want it). But if its sucking any power, thats a bug.

That being said, Firefox and Chromium use the integrated GPU more than you think, and they feel faster with a stronger IGP. Just try disabling some of the gpu acceleration and see how it feels.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by CameronNemo »

neogodless wrote: post #62
tristor wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is one of the models of CPU available the 7840HS? This sounds fantastic, I very well may buy a Framework laptop later this week/weekend. EDIT: Their site came back up, after reading the blog post I pre-ordered the Ryzen 7 13" to be my new Linux laptop.

I think so? Of the 7040 APUs, that seems to be the only Ryzen 7 model announced so far. Shipping estimate is Q3.

I think Zen4 U-series APUs are expected later this year.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #124

Hmm, 16" is great to hear but I see one issue. A decade or so ago big laptops let you plug things in the back. This was great because you didn't need cables running across your desk, which is kinda ridiculous for a desktop-replacement. This model seems to have the traditional top-mounted screen, leaving space in the back, but it is empty. Seems in the rush to copy Apple over the last decade, this knowledge was forgot…

The back is where the expansion bay/eGPU expansion goes. The eGPUs jut out for cooling, and the expansion bay itself is modular and the design is open-sourced, so I'll be curious if there isn't a port bay.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

aojdwhsd wrote: post #204
nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

What will the aspect ratio of the 16" laptop be?

Measuring the screens on the renders, it's 16:10.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

whitehexagon wrote: post #58
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #18

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

Matte display yay! I missed that a lot on the MBP. Seems like they still want to bundle a windows license, I never understand this, do MS pay OEMs to do this?

You can pick up the Framework Laptop DIY Edition with no OS or OS license included, and bring whichever distro you want.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #47
mroche wrote: post #28

The blog pages are functional for me right now: New 16" Model: https://frame.work/blog/introducing-the-framework-laptop-16 New 13" Models with Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7000 series https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-gen-in...

Works for me, thanks. But the linked Github repos for the (GPU) expansion bay and the input module are still private/dead. :/ https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionBay https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/InputModules

They seem to be live/public now.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #37
samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

Or some arbitrary AI accelerator! Jim Keller should make a Tenstorrent board. They already want to make desktop cards, and that would be a great way to market them.

We would absolutely love to see a Tenstorrent Expansion Bay Module.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by nrp »

Entinel wrote: post #130
nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

Do the 13 and 16 use different mainboards? Can I buy an AMD 13 and move it to a 16 chassis?

They do use different mainboards in order to enable all of the functionality that exists in the Framework Laptop 16 (6x Expansion Cards, the Expansion Bay, and the Input Module system).
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