I switched from Kagi back to Google because Kagi was just too slow for me. The search results on Google load much faster, while the response time on Kagi was at times over 500 miliseconds.
Update to Kagi Search Pricing
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#222Apparently they're struggling gathering money. It's not hard to imagine though.
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#223Too bad they decided to become irrelevant. Kagi was a fresh breeze and liked it very much, but by abolishing the free plan (which is now a merely short trial) and rising the prices this steeply will hurt them.
It's so much eyebrow-raising, too! All I wanted is a good search, but now they try to justify by saying "oh no our shiny AI costs so much!" – a feature I did not want and neither intend to use! Same with their browser? Why is everybody so fixated in making their own?
It is maddening. I recommended Kagi to all my colleagues and friends. Will stop doing that.
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#224The pricing at 10$ a month (paid as 120$ a month) was for me already too steep. But I could justify a subscription last june because of 3 reasons:
1. Philosophically: I want to pay for things I use 2. Quality: They do provide the best results 3. Experimentation: I want to try out new things
The new pricing scheme has forced me to abandon it. When my current subscription stops in june it is back to Google.
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#225Tiny copywriting nit in case anyone from Kagi is here: > The new Standard plan pricing will be $5/month, with 200 free searches included. They’re not free; they’re $5/month. I know it sounds pedantic but on first read I thought, ok, so 200 free searches in addition to whatever you get for $5, which is… what? It makes it feel more complex than it is.
They do have team plans where each user is ~20 USD with no included searches.
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#226I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
I'm afraid idea of paying for search engine has no future at all. Connecting my search queries with credit card is no option for anyone who want privacy - no matter what Vlad saying or not.
Without any proof there could be only trust.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's unfortunate since this is not what I (most people?) think when we hear "grandfathering". Also, why do we find this out over a blogpost. Where's the email saying "oh by the way the your subscription is changing in a drastic way"?
They sent out an email last night, to me at least
Mine was in spam with a pretty high spam score.
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#228Really disappointed with this pricing. Such pricing will kill their product and move regular consumers away from the product. I have used Brave search that gives similar search results for way less money.
And that's really the sad thing. If this pricing is too high for the business to be viable, it suggests that people would rather participate in surveillance capitalism than pay for privacy.
Please explain how connecting my search queries with credit card makes me nonparticipant in surveillance capitalism?
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#229I switched from Kagi back to Google because Kagi was just too slow for me. The search results on Google load much faster, while the response time on Kagi was at times over 500 miliseconds.
Why not SearX, You.com, Startpage, Neeva, etc?
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#230I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
I was finding it hard to justify the current price. This new pricing is madness to me. I think their rationale about the 'average number of searches' is misguided - what about the average number from people who are Kagi users? Those are the ones willing to pay for search, which I'd argue are currently not the 'average internet user'.
It’s a classic startup mistake – alienate your current evangelical users so you can appeal to the (uninterested) masses. Paul Graham has a line about how you should aim for a deep but narrow well rather than a wide but shallow one. Sad that Kagi hasn’t realised this and decided to plough ahead with this ridiculous strategy.