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Flag it and move on.
I flagged it. That has very little to do with my decision to comment or not.
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What was the actual "mock"? I don't see it in the sea of tweets.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632915881499176960 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633159188787658757 https://www.reddit.com/gallery/11kzn5v
Thank you. I agree that this hasn't been handled the best way.
Nonetheless, the links you presented - I don't see how that's mocking if the person didn't actually do any work. The laughing emoji was in response to Haraldur describing what he did at the company.
I just simply wouldn't engage, period.
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One of the posted articles had nothing to do with Elon Musk. It still got flagged. So I disagree that it was flagged correctly.
It has everything to do with the current rage drama ̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶s̶. One test for this would be: is the discussion substantially different in that thread? The answer is clearly no.
Is there not a distinction between the post and the discussion? Because ...
> It has everything to do with the current rage drama, as everyone knows.
no, I didn't know that until there was a comment about it and another post on Hacker News. The discussion I saw seemed within reason.
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That's a good point. [UPDATED] > But as I told HR (I'm assuming that's the confidential health information you are sharing) I can't work as a hands on designer for the reasons outlined above. > Or even small companies, like Twitter today. That's gonna leave a mark.
Yeah its disgraceful behavior from Musk.
I have a feeling that Halli is getting a lot of solicitations from solicitors.
I suspect lawyers are salivating over the possibilities. Target-rich (very rich) environment...
[UPDATE] and there's this: https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1633176820072816640
There will definitely be lawyers in the mix...
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It has everything to do with the current rage drama ̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶s̶. One test for this would be: is the discussion substantially different in that thread? The answer is clearly no.
Is there not a distinction between the post and the discussion? Because ... > It has everything to do with the current rage drama, as everyone knows. no, I didn't know that until there was a comment about it and another post on Hacker News. The discussion I saw seemed within reason.
You're right—sorry! I've scratched that bit now (it wasn't necessary anyhow)
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> did this guy do his job in Twitter, or did Musk lie? Honestly, that is completely irrelevant in my opinion of Musk. Musk just continues to delight in being a grade A psychopath and asshole, that's why I wish he would just shut up so I don't have to continually hear what assholish thing he does next. To start with, the Director of Twitter HR was not even able to tell the employee if they still worked there . That is…
> Musk has proven again and again that he is simply a lying asshole. I honestly don't care how much he's worth or how successful he is. He treats everyone around him like shit, and I don't understand why anyone would idolize that. Andrew Tate truly had (has!) a huge following among teen boys and adult men with a brand that was pretty much openly "psychopathic shitbag guru". Trump constantly told blatant lies and was…
The most important thing is that someone pisses off the people you don't like. Anything else can be forgiven
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>he's on the psychopathy spectrum Can't say if he's on the psychopathy spectrum or not, but he has admitted to be on the autistic spectrum, and I think that alone must be enough of a hinderance to running a social medial company.
He's not on the autism spectrum, that's just another one of his lies.
I think he self identifies as Asperger’s (sic). A lot of people in neuro-diversity movement are fine with people self identifying (though they prefer people stop using the Asperger’s in favor of Autism). Elon Musk can self identify on the autism spectrum if he wants, and there is no reason to doubt his own experience as being on the spectrum.
However being autistic is not an excuse for this kind of behavior. Many autistic people have sensory issues and will appear rude when they suddenly withdraw from a conversation, or have an unexplainable tantrum. However neither of these is what we are witnessing in Elon’s behavior. His is simply rude and disregarding of other people. That can be an indication of psychopathy (but doesn’t have to be). If this was a tantrum we wouldn’t be able to understand him this easily, and this is engagement—which is the opposite of withdrawal—so we can rule out over stimulation.
I think the most likely explanation here he is simply a bad person regardless of autism or other neuro-divergency.
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The main reason why Elon is like this is that he's on the psychopathy spectrum. Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on, but it wouldn't change who he is.
> Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on Wasn't there a recent study that suggested that mindfulness meditation is correlated with an increase in narcissism, not a reduction?
There are other kinds of meditation, including some that are focused on cultivating empathy and concern for others. That might help, idk.
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> "well if he's not working why is elon paying him" > for these groups of people Elon is tied to their identity and he can do no wrong I'm not an Elon fanboy and I'm not familiar with these events. But it seems like paying someone who isn't working isn't a great use of money. It seems reasonable to end an arrangement like that. Was that really what happened?
> But it seems like paying someone who isn't working isn't a great use of money. He and Twitter agreed to structure the buyout of his firm as income for tax reasons so even if he didn't do a single ounce of work for twitter his entire tenure it would have been money well spent for no other reason than the time value of money. Common sense and reading between the lines a bit it seems like his contract stipulates that…
> agreed to structure the buyout of his firm as income for tax reasons
I expect most people will infer the wrong thing here. To be clear, those "tax reasons" were that he wanted to maximize the amount of tax he would pay.
> an agreement between him and Twitter, most of the purchase price was paid as salary to maximize the tax he would pay for the sale in Iceland, he chose to pay for tax out of respect to Iceland for the disability benefits he received. Per the agreement, he paid the second highest tax of an individual in Iceland in 2021.
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#230Surreal to me to see how many people in this thread and trying to steer the conversation towards whether or not the firing was justified based on his job performance. What the actual fuck does it matter? In what world is it okay to fire someone without communication and then publically mock them like Elon did here? I'm truly unable understand the willingness some people have to jump to the defense of billionaires.
It's not necessarily in defense of billionaires, it's because other people are just as vile as Musk and feel validated by him being vile in public. See also: Donald Trump.