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Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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I've disabled unlock with Apple Watch and bought a touch ID magic keyboard. This is a far better solution! It was neat for a couple of days until I was walking out of the room and my mac unlocked itself.

FYI the feds can legally compel you to use biometric scanning to open your device, but cannot compel you to give up passcodes. Last I heard

Feds is not an attack vector that concerns me. My coworkers or kids changing my wallpaper or getting access to my kit is.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Screen on my Zenbook has touch layer, that makes glass a bit thicker I guess. And yes I keep it in stuffed in backpack and sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not museum exponate! I had other laptops that left fingerprints. But Macbook Air had glass so thin it would randomly pop from temperature difference (well known issue)! Nobody is forcing you to carry brick around. But some people like to carry brick and Apple shou…

>sometimes drop it. It is a tool, not museum exponate Yeah, why can't it double as a hammer too? >And how do you even clean keyboard on Macbooks The same way you do it on any other laptop. >That thing falls apart with a bad look No it doesn't. >But some people like to carry brick and Apple should make a new model just for them No they shouldn't, go buy your brick from someone else.

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Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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They have this feature but closing the lid on a MacBook or even putting it to sleep allows Bluetooth devices to stay connected. Heck, a MacBook even while in sleep mode will connect to Bluetooth devices. As far as I can see, this requires a third-party app to fix. Can an application still use the microphone on a Bluetooth device that’s connected?

That is actually meant to keep the connection to a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse when using the computer in clamshell mode.

They don't let me use an HDMI display without external power while closed, so why let me use bluetooth without power?

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Unsure if I would love or hate that, but it might be more natural than the iphone/airpods/mac "incoming call" fiasco I face regularly. Airpods/MacOS - listening to background music. Phone call comes in... VERY LOUD facetime 'ring' announces on mac that I'm getting a phone call. Pick up phone to answer it... holy tamole - it's minimum 8 seconds between clicking 'answer' and... eventually airpods switching over to phon…

Honest question: Why don’t you answer the call from the Mac? Or do you have that continuity feature disabled?

I disabled that as it has some very confusing and undesired behaviour. For example if you're listening to Spotify on your Mac, then get a call on your iPhone you hit pause on your keyboard media keys so you can pick up the call - and it hangs up.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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You should spend a few minutes in setting. Continuity allows a mouse and keyboard to run multiple macs and iPads. You move the cursor all the way over to the end of the screen. It stops but if you push more it will switch to the neighboring Mac. Easy to disable in settings. You can unlock your other Mac this way (I think), and Apple Watch will unlock if you are close by. All changeable in settings.

Problem is I like Apple Watch unlocking. But not randomly when I’m downstairs cooking dinner!

For sure!

Now that I have an apple silicon Mac and a keyboard with touch id, I turned that feature off.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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post #210

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I've disabled unlock with Apple Watch and bought a touch ID magic keyboard. This is a far better solution! It was neat for a couple of days until I was walking out of the room and my mac unlocked itself.

FYI the feds can legally compel you to use biometric scanning to open your device, but cannot compel you to give up passcodes. Last I heard

Can’t they just touch the sensor like 3 times and then make you tell the password?

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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God I love having a laptop with proper S3 standby.

Yeah, even Windows/Linux laptops have started moving away from this... if the startup time isn't too bad, I've gotten in the habit of just completely shutting down when traveling. Nothing worse than a dead battery when you open your laptop because of some background BS trying to run.

I go both ways on this being a feature and a bug.

On one hand, its kind of nice for my trip from my home office into the main office. Opening up my laptop at the other location its already properly connected to the WiFi, applications are already "warming up" and syncing their statuses to the things that changed, bluetooth keyboard and mouse can actually wake the device from "sleep", etc. It gives a far more seamless experience moving from one place to the other.

But I also get the pain of this too. Pulling out my laptop on the airplane and seeing it already at like 93% battery since I left earlier that morning isn't great.

I remember back in the late 90s and early 2000's the dream of having some kind of low power notification screen on the lid or edge of the laptop. I always wanted that: being able to quickly see some of the info without fully booting up or accessing music from the computer while on the go. Of course, smartphones became a thing and have mostly eliminated needing the laptop to do those tasks.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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They have this feature but closing the lid on a MacBook or even putting it to sleep allows Bluetooth devices to stay connected. Heck, a MacBook even while in sleep mode will connect to Bluetooth devices. As far as I can see, this requires a third-party app to fix. Can an application still use the microphone on a Bluetooth device that’s connected?

Found this, https://github.com/odlp/bluesnooze/ looks to solve this problem.

If you need something more selective, BetterTouchTool (which you might already have) has a sleep trigger that allows you to disconnect specific devices.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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FYI the feds can legally compel you to use biometric scanning to open your device, but cannot compel you to give up passcodes. Last I heard

Can’t they just touch the sensor like 3 times and then make you tell the password?

I think you got this backwards. The 5th amendment means that the state can not force you to share information you have in your head, e.g. you can not be forced to give a password. But the state can force you to give a physical key, harware token, or a biometric read.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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I think you should be able to play music while the lid is closed. That seems like a reasonable use case. Set computer up on a table, pair Bluetooth speaker, put on your favorite streaming service, close the lid and walk away, the music filling the room. Totally reasonable.

That’s a different topic really. There are tools that can prevent going to sleep when the lid is closed with no peripherals attached. When not used, most users would expect for the laptop to go to sleep, even if it’s playing something at the time. What this is about is engaging Bluetooth devices while asleep, which doesn’t make any practical sense.

> When not used, most users would expect for the laptop to go to sleep

I think part of the problem here is that defining "in use" is actually very difficult, and it's literally something where two different users (or even the same user at different times) could have different expectations for the same circumstance as defined in code.

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