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Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by danjac »

tialaramex wrote: post #102
ngrilly wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is forcing companies to sign an Azure contract with Microsoft, and go with AWS or GCP instead. Perhaps they are just doing something right. But I didn't use Azure myself. I'd be curious to know what's good or bad about it compared to GCP and AWS.

For a development team, here's an example of something good about Azure: Microsoft gives us dev accounts with monthly Azure credits (e.g. $100) and you cannot spend more when those credits run out because there is no credit card etc. behind that account to charge the excess. Azure just like other cloud services (I've used AWS but as I understand it GCP is the same) doesn't believe in timely billing. You can and will…

This is why I absolutely avoid using Azure, AWS or GCP for my own side projects. On the company account, sure, it's your money. But I'm not going to risk my savings because I misconfigured a lambda or something.

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Post by funnymony »

NKosmatos wrote: post #11

What's the point of having a status page if it doesn't indicate the issues? https://status.azure.com/en-us/status Azure, Teams, Outlook are almost down from Greece and Germany, and their status page shows that everything is fine :-)

Its public relations page.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

sli wrote: post #220

Every Azure product I've had to use has been lousy in every possible way. Azure DevOps at my last employer was a nightmare and nobody in the company liked it, not even the managers who decided on it.

I've been learning / using DevOps for the past four months and find it "quite good", and have previously used Jira, although not in great detail.

I'm making the effort to learn it in increasing detail as it's the company-wide chosen system. I'm interested to know what made / makes it a nightmare for anyone else.

(And I'm no fan of Microsoft as a whole)

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Post by vikramkr »

hnarn wrote: post #132
steve1977 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they were relying on Outlook and Teams to be productive, they probably couldn't really work before either.

What a naive comment. As if the only truly important jobs exist in engineering and require nothing but git and a book on C.

I'm unsure what being in engineering has to do with using outlook and teams?

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Post by teh_klev »

cjcampbell wrote: post #213
teh_klev wrote: post #162

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> I don't know how many of you sign in to multiple tenants in the console, but it generally involves buying a new computer. This made me laugh out loud. I'm working in a multi-tenant, multi-subscription environment with Azure AD just now. MS force you to use 2FA and I picked the wrong 2FA app. Now it's completely and utterly comical trying to work out which generated 2FA auth code I need to key in when auth'ing in Vi…

I’m setting up a system with multiple AAD B2C tenants, so I get the joy of switching back and forth between the primary tenant and the B2C tenants frequently (at least until I can finish automating enough of the B2C provisioning bits). I don’t yet have enough context to fully evaluate against cognito. It may end up being nice to have B2C as a first class AAD tenant, but until I get far enough along to realize those b…

I have multiple chrome profiles for this. However, despite switching from one subscription to another to access each different AAD tenant across multiple chrome profiles, it seems that Azure "remembers" the subscription you last accessed, across profiles. It's as if the last subscription you accessed is tagged to your Azure user server side rather being a blob of client side state. This is deeply annoying as well, especially when your sessions expire...

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Post by RajT88 »

ngrilly wrote: post #53
antihero wrote: post #45

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And the companies are forced to due to huge contracts with Microsoft

Nothing is forcing companies to sign an Azure contract with Microsoft, and go with AWS or GCP instead. Perhaps they are just doing something right. But I didn't use Azure myself. I'd be curious to know what's good or bad about it compared to GCP and AWS.

On the ground, the chatter I've heard from cloud customers and techies who have worked for various cloud companies:

- If you need scale, you pick AWS or Azure (GCP doesn't have the same scale, and is catching up)

- If you are a retailer, you don't pick AWS, because you're a competitor and they'll use whatever nasty (but legal) tricks to eat your lunch money

- Windows stack workloads seem to run better on the AWS virtualization stack

- Linux stack workloads seem to run better on the Azure virtualization stack

- GCP has great integrations/automation/api, AWS is pretty good too

- AWS has great support

- GCP has terrible support

- Azure is somewhere in between the two above in terms of support

It depends what is important to you.

Bonus chatter: Oracle Exadata is an unmatched force to be reckoned with, but OCI as a whole doesn't have their shit together.

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Post by Art9681 »

dsign wrote: post #34

This makes you wonder if some centralization patterns, i.e. Azure AD, are not a national security problem?

Microsoft has a lesser known Azure Gov Cloud specifically because of this that is disconnected from public Cloud. This includes dedicated staff with vetted secret clearances for access to those systems.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/explore/global-infrastruct...

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Post by fomine3 »

jakewins wrote: post #190
cryptonym wrote: post #128

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Leave to go where? On-premise and being miserable having to wait months to get a new server with poor automation, observability and worse outages? To another major cloud provider with similar pricing and outages? Cloud helped mostly with automation and scaling but if your system is that critical, you should consider a good CDN as load balancer and multi-cloud (or at least multi-region) for actual robustness.

AWS and GCP both have ~100% uptime in every region for VMs this month. Meanwhile the majority of Azure regions have had various outages in the same period: https://cloudharmony.com/status-of-compute

Interesting. Can I see this longer than a month?
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