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How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

ketzo wrote: post #3

Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…

In certain countries the person is buried in a grave and problem solved. Nobody knows about it. What's wrong with that?

Btw this whole shit looks staged.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Post by vorpalhex »

barry-cotter wrote: post #220
vorpalhex wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't believe violence is going to occur, why not go alone?

The point of going with a group of friends is to make it clear to the person you are implicitly threatening that if there is a fight they will lose. The more unbalanced the forces on each side the less likely the weaker side is to initiate violence.

I agree, which brings me back to my original point - why are you seeking out violence via street brawl and are you ready when you or your buddies goes to the morgue or the jail?

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Post by barry-cotter »

vorpalhex wrote: post #222
barry-cotter wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of going with a group of friends is to make it clear to the person you are implicitly threatening that if there is a fight they will lose. The more unbalanced the forces on each side the less likely the weaker side is to initiate violence.

I agree, which brings me back to my original point - why are you seeking out violence via street brawl and are you ready when you or your buddies goes to the morgue or the jail?

These people use the implicit threat of violence to get someone to stop doing a thing they don’t want to continue. They believe that the chance of going to the morgue is very low and the chance of going to jail is also extremely low. So they do it because they think the expected benefits outweigh the expected costs. They would be less likely to do so if they lived in a country where most crime is punished and reports of crime are generally investigated. That’s not Scotland though.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Post by fennecfoxy »

ketzo wrote: post #3

Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…

At least she got someone to defend her. If you're a dude who can't help yourself in the same way literally nobody gives a shit about you.

Also, after reading the article: * They make a citizen's arrest with little evidence that the guy they observed the other night is the same dude as on video other than their word * The night they actually observed the guy, he didn't actually do anything wrong (even if putting on a mask is a pretty solid link) but it's still all on their word

I feel like the stalker dude is a dangerous scumbag but these vigilantee a-holes are no better; as a short gay dude I've run in with too many of these dude bro white knights who may get things right now & then but can otherwise screw up. Like dudes that assault you in a club bc they think you're harassing some chick when in actuality you're just plain not interested.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Post by zxexz »

mindslight wrote: post #32
zxexz wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citizens Arrests are very dangerous and pretty much never worth the risk. Even ignoring the many physical dangers of such an act, if the person “arrested” doesn’t get convicted (also pretty sure it has to be a felony conviction, at least here in MA, though IANAL), it opens you up to a false arrest, or possibly a false imprisonment, charge.

If only the police we pay for were held to the same standards as other citizens.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. The seems pretty reasonable to me.
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