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Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by satvikpendem »

Brendonovich wrote: post #108
satvikpendem wrote: post #50

Damn, I use Prisma, it's a good way to have a unified database schema for which you can generate code in any language you want. It was very useful for converting a TypeScript project to a Rust one, I use prisma-client-rust in particular. https://github.com/Brendonovich/prisma-client-rust

Ooo a PCR user in the wild! Glad you like it haha. At least development on it won't slow down since I don't work at Prisma in the first place.

Indeed, we discussed on your Discord before Christmas about the Pothos API for PCR. How's that been going, still under construction?

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by paulryanrogers »

dzikimarian wrote: post #218
teeray wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is this responsibility defined? If it were truly taking responsibility, the CEO approving layoffs would have a 28% chance of being laid off too.

Surely random leadership change will help remaining 72%.

Considering the track records that may be better than the good ol boys club shielding each other from these cuts

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Post by bsg75 »

phoe-krk wrote: post #31
danjac wrote: post #21

"I take full responsibility" is the new "our incredible journey" of failing tech company cliches.

How is this responsibility defined? How is this responsibility measured? What aspects of the ex-Prisma people does this responsibility cover? What measurable and practical effects does this responsibility have when measured in one week, one month, three months, one year from now? If these targets are not met, what are the consequences of that? What are the means of enforcing that responsibility? I seriously think we…

> How is this responsibility defined?

If it does not start with a 28% reduction in all areas of compensation, and full elimination of all bonus opportunities for the current calendar and fiscal year, then no responsibility has been taken.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by [deleted] »

phoe-krk wrote: post #31
danjac wrote: post #21

"I take full responsibility" is the new "our incredible journey" of failing tech company cliches.

How is this responsibility defined? How is this responsibility measured? What aspects of the ex-Prisma people does this responsibility cover? What measurable and practical effects does this responsibility have when measured in one week, one month, three months, one year from now? If these targets are not met, what are the consequences of that? What are the means of enforcing that responsibility? I seriously think we…

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Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by erik_seaberg »

jbirer wrote: post #102

This is why I use no ORMs and use mysql like a man.

That’s rarely a good use of time. Complex queries might require some kind of DSL (hopefully closer to Spark than raw SQL) but we should automate data validation and row marshaling for the same reasons we automate register allocation, stack frames, and garbage collection.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by erik_seaberg »

gruez wrote: post #188
orra wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course developers can be transitioned to do other types of development. Occam's Razor says: or the companies just want to rehire new people at lower pay.

>Occam's Razor says: or the companies just want to rehire new people at lower pay. Do you have any idea how much it costs to recruit replacement developers? Between the cost for recruiters, the amount of time spent on interviews, and ramp-up time for new hires, you'd need to lower wages by a significant amount (eg. 30%) for you to be able to get payback in a reasonable amount of time. Not to mention, if you're a star…

Salary cuts are strongly resented, so I think employers prefer to use turnover as an opportunity to hire at the market rate when it has gone down (due to competitors no longer making better offers).

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by mhio »

debug-desperado wrote: post #211
ushakov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prisma, being the most popular ORM at the moment, gives you a lot of leverage and opportunities for vertical integration

More popular than Hibernate and Entity Framework (both free)? I doubt it.

Popular in the Typescript/Javascript world.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Post by naijaboiler »

alistairSH wrote: post #204
api wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much were people pushed to overhire by boards and investors that are now pushing for layoffs? Why does the financial world’s mentality have to oscillate between cocaine and opium?

I don’t care how much he was pushed. He’s the guy at the helm. Part of that lavish comp package should be the ability to say “we don’t need that many employees; that hiring is not in the best interests of investors/customers”.

this. my small company in 2020 & 2021, grew with COVID like most tech companies. But last year, we scaled back hiring more, heck we struggled to hire as anybody worth a penny was picked up for higher wages by the big boys. we are not laying anyone off. heck I am looking to hire aggressively this year, as others lay off.

Part of being a competent leader is correctly assessing staffing needs of your org. If you suck at upsizing your staffing needs correctly, why should we trust that you don't also suck at downsizing correctly. I have little respect for leaderships that overhire then layoff. I view them as incompetent.

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