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Re: WordPress has left the building

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Post by TylerE » Wed, Jan 11, 2012, 11:32 PM UTC

FuzzyDunlop wrote: post #220

TylerE wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not bad once you get your head around it. Sure, it's not buzzword compliant (MVC, TDD, ORM OH MY!) but for what it is, it can be pretty compelling. My primary job for the last 2 years has been developing a Drupal site for a group of daily newspapers with monthly page views in the low 8 figures. We were in a situation where we had to get a site up quickly (Our small group was bought off from a much larger conglom…

I really don't doubt that for many people it has its place, as evidenced by your experience, but the moment you want any semblance of interactivity (at which point you can argue that a CMS is the wrong tool for the job) or efficiency/optimisation, you're screwed. We've had different experiences, but I wouldn't touch it with a 10' bargepole, not any more. And I'm glad I've been managing to encourage my boss to start m…

Depends. We serve ~40 PHP requests a second (and that's NOT counting stuff that hits the cache) on reasonable hardware - an 8G webserver VM, and a 4G DB VM, both with 4 cores allocated, and hot copies of each for failover. Our site is pretty interactive, and even the stuff that's cached is short (5 minutes or less) timeouts.

Re: WordPress has left the building

#222

Post by _gd3l » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 3:02 AM UTC

pestaa wrote: post #213

_gd3l wrote: post #147

All the things he listed that WordPress doesn't have are the reasons why I like it. With the exception of better caching/CDN integration, I like that WordPress is simple, straightforward, and super hackable with plugins and theme functions. A lot of people don't even know all the capabilities. Few know about the WP Transients capabilities, for example. They're quite powerful and useful.

Transients API is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you. The WordPress Codex is not really in a good shape I think.

Glad I could help out. The Codex is in great shape, I think they just have to prioritize their time and they don't have huge human resources to focus on everything. Focusing on the Thumbnails section, for instance, might serve more people than the Transients API. But the Transients stuff is pretty neat and there are other little hooks and functions that really do a lot :)

Re: WordPress has left the building

#223

Post by FraaJad » Fri, Jan 13, 2012, 3:15 PM UTC

dextorious wrote: post #194

FraaJad wrote: post #20

Time and again, people want to use a hacked up blogging engine as a CMS and lament that it is not working. Use a CMS that's been around for more than decade which has all the features you want in a proper CMS (single sign on, WYSIWGY, multi-lingual support, a huge community of developers and service providers). ie., Plone -- http://plone.org

I also want it to be easily adjustable to arbitrary needs. This doesn't cut it. Also, Zope based. I worked with Zope building large portals from 2000-2004. Worked, but not a very pleasant experience.

Plone has improved a lot in the past 8 years.

Zope is just a datastore that happens to be well suited for storing documents. Bad things happened because people did too much magic with zope. "With power comes responsibility" etc.,