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I’m 45. Wife. Kid. The works. Painfully aware of how precious life is. 20 years ago when I was your age (which btw feels like only a few years ago…) this type of content resonated a lot more with me. I assume it was because the concept of aging was still pretty abstract. Now I’m in the shit so to speak. My point is that I’ve seen a million of these. Hell I’ve read 4K weeks! You’ll get no argument from me that spendin…
very strange that you've read "Four Thousand Weeks" but associate it with "making the most of Every Second Of The Day" which is the precise opposite of its philosophy
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#222I’m impressed by the beauty of this site and sophistication of the UI. However I _hate_ this type of messaging that does nothing for you except make your mental health worse. I don’t want to think about how many weeks of life I have left! Inducing existential dread is NOT what any of us need to start living our lives more fully (which I assume is the intent of this site). You wanna zone out on YouTube? Go for it. Tha…
If you don't feel some existential dread at some point it's because you aren't being honest with yourself, which is a prerequisite to moving past that dread. IMO reminding people that they are mortal and that they should find a way to deal with that is a public service. So many of the strange things we do are because we're afraid to confront the reality that we too, some day, will die.
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I understand the message. I get that it’s coming from a good place too. I’m just saying that stuff like this can make people feel bad about themselves unintentionally.
I'd say sometimes people may need to feel bad about themselves in order to improve. And this feeling may be triggered unintentionally, too; there's no way around it sometimes. Feeling the pain sucks though.
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#224I’m impressed by the beauty of this site and sophistication of the UI. However I _hate_ this type of messaging that does nothing for you except make your mental health worse. I don’t want to think about how many weeks of life I have left! Inducing existential dread is NOT what any of us need to start living our lives more fully (which I assume is the intent of this site). You wanna zone out on YouTube? Go for it. Tha…
> You wanna zone out on YouTube? Go for it. That’s just as valid as staying up all night to watch a sunrise. People should spend their time how they please but I strongly feel that feeding The Algorithm directly into your brain for hours is objectively less mentally healthy than staring at a sunrise, even if the sunrise is mind numbingly boring.
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Having a pup and embracing her as my kid feels similar. I know it’s not the same, but I sincerely think that waking up every day putting my pup first is the best thing I’ve ever lived for. Everything else is just icing I have more reason to enjoy.
This is so wonderful to hear. I’m so many ways a puppers is like a toddler. You can’t take days off. You can’t decide to just put it off for a while or skip the walk when the weather is poor.
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#226There are a few ways people take such a message - yes, life is precious, be conscious of what we invest our time in. This part makes sense. Yet, it is worth asking, what makes for a meaning life? What makes the 4000 weeks worth it? For some, they chase wealth, power, career success, get one's name recognized, etc - these are milestones to be achieved. Things to accomplish. Others will say, such accomplishments are no…
This is a lot of words just to say you're a nihilist. Further you're trying to disguise a chicken-and-egg paradox as some deep insight. > if we can function from a state of feeling content as we live each day .. then what we do during the lifespan given to us matters little Why do you think people desire meaning in the first place? "Nothing matters, just be content" is a poor substitute for the things you call a futi…
So, if I am acting from a state of fulfillment or contentment, what I choose to do with my life might be quite different from what I would do if I felt unfilled and lonely.
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> Inducing existential dread is NOT what any of us need to start living our lives more fully I’ve found, as I watch friends and family age, that learning to confront and work with this dread is essential to living life fully. Especially as decline and decay start to dominate aspects of your life more and more. The people that I know that are uncomfortable talking about these topics progressively live in a world of fe…
So how do you accept it? I know a handful of 75+ year old family members who I am close to and they don’t think about it at all. The ones who act like they are still young and don’t dwell on death seem the happiest. It runs counter to the argument that death is something you need to meditate on and acknowledge every day. Maybe there is something to just living in denial until your quality of life has degraded and you…
Accepting death will happen is a prerequisite. So many are afraid of this event, but it is just another event. What can you do about death? Nothing. So it's pointless to worry about the impending event of death. For some control freaks, this sends them into an internal spiral, and to them I say maybe reassess whatever trauma caused them to seek control over the uncontrollable. For others, this is freeing. It happens when it happens so all I can do is act on the now.
This is where I think most elderly people are at, and why they feel liberated. They aren't concerned about a legacy or preventing death or reputation, they care about the here and now. Loving who they love, working on what they enjoy, saying what's on their mind, and letting go of the rest.
Some people mistake this liberation to be a complete disregard for planning or the future. But on the contrary, if an elderly person sees high value in a higher education for their grandchildren for instance, they might seek to make contributions. They are acting in the now for their own benefit, understanding whatever happens when they are gone is uncontrollable anyway.
Do you need to pray to the god of death every day? No, but it's helpful to frame your perspective knowing death is going to happen. Especially when doing so helps fuel better decisions. Why worry about your social perception by joining a painting class? Why not go for a nice hike today? Our problems see minute when we acknowledge death is around the corner.
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If you kept your diary secret and wrote it for yourself, it would probably be more useful.
It’s funny, now that you mentioned it I remembered I did keep a journal like that - in high school, long time ago. It was a very private, well hidden, handwritten journal where I mostly wrote down my dreams, and tried to analyze them. I also described my interactions with friends, girls, parents, my insecurities, plans, etc. Several hundred pages over a couple of years. Even though this journal is valuable to me, per…
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But what counts as well spent? That’s always my biggest stumbling block with this topic.
I believe every single person must define that for themselves, and should be a definition specific for a short timeframe, it is useless to think about an "end-goal-well-spent" time because your opinion about what is well spent is gonna change of course For example, for me right now an example of "time well spent" is playing with my elder cat. I try to reduce the time dedicated to every other thing today just to be ab…
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He talks about telic vs atelic activities in Four Thousand Weeks , taken from the book Midlife . Highly recommend both.
Anyone else wanting to search for the book "Midlife" -- it seems to be this one, by Kieran Setiya (full title: "Midlife: A Philosophical Guide"): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34427017-midlife