It seems like ballot measures are the only way a real R2R bill will pass. The incentives will never allow it to pass through the usual legislative route.
Ballot measures in NYS can only be proposed by the legislature.
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
The free market at work. "Do you want me to provide plain bad service or bad service that also puts the customers' lives at risk? The choice is yours, dear regulator!" But more seriously, I think the sibling posts are right here: A plane crash is more than a monetary risk: In the worst case, managers of the airline could be criminally liable for lost lives.
The free market at work also generated the airlines and travel industry that so many enjoy. We created the FAA and other entities to regulate the market participants to make sure we get the outcome we desire while balancing generating economic activity. If something isn’t working right, it’s the responsibility of regulators to fix the problem, or ultimately the people to elect representatives who will. This casual cy…
> The free market at work also generated the airlines and travel industry that so many enjoy.
Well, that and all the government spending on aviation in WWII.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
The free market at work also generated the airlines and travel industry that so many enjoy. We created the FAA and other entities to regulate the market participants to make sure we get the outcome we desire while balancing generating economic activity. If something isn’t working right, it’s the responsibility of regulators to fix the problem, or ultimately the people to elect representatives who will. This casual cy…
> This casual cynicism regarding markets is dangerous and infectious because instead of focusing on fixing problems that have solutions via the levers of government, people give up completely and then nothing is ever made better. I don't think this follows, and I think it's because you're missing a piece of what's going on here. You seem to be coming to this from a perspective of " obviously , a healthy system has a…
Agreed. Just a nitpick, when I think of libertarian absolutists, I don't necessarily think about Adam Smith. I haven't read "Wealth of Nations", but I believe he was much more reasonable than an Ayn Rand for example.
American style libertarian absolutists are usually not very subtle, sometimes even clownish like she was.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I am aware of what she said. You have yet to provide what that means, clearly no vote took place as they are not in session. So how did the legislature agree, under what law, rule, or mechanism was this agreement reached. I have yet to see anyone explain that, they just keel quoting the governor which has zero meaning and given I do not trust the governor I have not reason to trust that statement
Basically you want all the blame to fall to her because she's a Democrat whereas the legislator is mixed.
The state legislatures in NY are Democrat super majorities. As of Jan. 1 the Assembly will still be majority Democrat but will no longer be a super majority. Super majority meaning the Party can pass any legislation they want and the minority cannot do anything to counter.
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> Lo and behold, the airlines have started classifying almost every delay and cancellation as a safety issue Then the regulators should be asking why there are so many safety issues? Seems like by the airlines' own admission, this is a perfect ground for a full investigation and penalties in case the issues are found to be misclassified under the category of safety.
They only care about safety issues during flight. Flights that dont happen are not a "flight safety" issue. The safest trip is always the one that doesnt try to leave the ground.
That is an odd take - so any shit can happen to the customers as long as they don't get in the air? IMHO they should also care about customers being cheated out of compensation on account of misclassification of the reason for the flights being cancelled.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference is a lot more, I usually see >100. But even for a cheap flight that was 138 jet blue basic, it's 60 for the middle tier and 110 extra for the refundable.
The middle tier is the real price in my opinion. The only reason the basic tier is there is as upsell opportunity and meant to be punishing. I read somewhere that only 5% of seats sold on Delta are basic. I get it. It’s meant for people who are price sensitive. But aren’t those the ones who can least afford to lose money if something happens?
It's expensive to be poor—the good old "Vimes Boots Theory of economic unfairness".[0]
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Really wish Zeldin wasn't an election denier. That's what made me vote for governor sellout.
That’s such a weird thing to not vote for someone for. I mean, I get it - it’s a principled stance and all. But you should never vote on principal. You should vote to win so that the real issues you care about are reified. Principal could make you feel good but you still lost. Winning is the only thing that matters.
That kind of cynical thinking is exactly what broke US democracy. Winning at any cost even to the detriment of society as a whole.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
The free market at work. "Do you want me to provide plain bad service or bad service that also puts the customers' lives at risk? The choice is yours, dear regulator!" But more seriously, I think the sibling posts are right here: A plane crash is more than a monetary risk: In the worst case, managers of the airline could be criminally liable for lost lives.
> The free market at work. Do you have any clue how dangerous Soviet passenger aircraft and their flights were, compared to their Western counterparts?
Russia continues to have a dismal aviation safety record.
The West has largely regulated away airline crashes - the last in the US was in 2009, and it's down 95% in fatalities-per-passenger in the last two decades or so. Stuff like the 1500 hour rule certainly weren't industry initiatives.
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#229I believe the analysis. Here in Canada, the government passed a law not that long ago (during the pandemic) to enshrine rights of passengers for delayed and cancelled flights, which included right to specific amounts of monetary compensation in those scenarios. The law, however, had an exception, where no compensation is due if the flight is delayed or cancelled due to a safety issue. Lo and behold, the airlines have…
> Here is an example of how ridiculously far the airlines have gone in claiming everything is a safety issue,
These outlandish claims wouldn't work nearly as well as they do if claims of safety didn't cause a large part of the population to turn off their brain and side with whoever's making the claim regardless of the details.
Safety is often used as one of our modern analogs of "god's will."
Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
The free market at work. "Do you want me to provide plain bad service or bad service that also puts the customers' lives at risk? The choice is yours, dear regulator!" But more seriously, I think the sibling posts are right here: A plane crash is more than a monetary risk: In the worst case, managers of the airline could be criminally liable for lost lives.
The free market at work also generated the airlines and travel industry that so many enjoy. We created the FAA and other entities to regulate the market participants to make sure we get the outcome we desire while balancing generating economic activity. If something isn’t working right, it’s the responsibility of regulators to fix the problem, or ultimately the people to elect representatives who will. This casual cy…
And with respect to additional compensation for delays, it's arguable that may be a good thing as a matter of policy. But people should understand that the net effect is to add a surcharge to all airline tickets to cover both expected payments and the cost of additional slack airlines may build into their systems to reduce delays.
Which may be reasonable as a matter of policy. Increase ticket prices, hopefully reduce delays, and provide compensation when delays happen anyway. That may be a reasonable tradeoff but not sure everyone would agree.
ADDED: The strongest argument is probably that, while it will increase prices somewhat, it encourages airlines to build more slack into the system at the cost of some efficiency. But that may be a net positive given that delays externalize costs, including non-monetary ones, onto all passengers--including those that are less price-sensitive.