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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by newaccount74 »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #55

Sadly, my daughter got scammed earlier this year. She is a recent college grad from a liberal arts school, and had been working six months doing retail work after graduation. Looking to make use of her degree, she was excited to get a job offer doing remote work as an office coordinator. She has a dog so working from home was a plus, and $25/hr instead of $16/hr doing retail was a big raise. She not only lost $3000 f…

> The thing that pained her the most was the shame of having been scammed.

I've fallen victim to a scammer as well (paid rent to a "landlord" who it turns out didn't actually own the place). It sucks, but I don't think it's something to be ashamed of. Our society is built on trust, and some people exploit that.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by commandersaki »

jestarray wrote: post #23
nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

I was not in the right state of mind, my brain weirdly skimmed and auto-corrected grammar mistakes. I thought it was weird but I was just happy and yet busy to think about it further.

Just fyi, anyone can send email (a.k.a. spoofing) from @autonation.com, the harder part is correspondence from that domain - but I think you were pretty much aware of the scam at that point. Good job.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by iso1631 »

rtpg wrote: post #163
ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

Every day somebody is born who hasn't heard one of these stories! And honestly one thing about life is that you generally are slowly building up trust with people, and then can be asked to do things that are totally legit all the time. Of course skepticism is required, but I know a lot of people who got dealt a lot of shit by their (real) employers simply by not understanding what is normal or not, as it was their fi…

> Every day somebody is born who hasn't heard one of these stories

10,000, and that's just the US

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by skilled »

I haven't gone through all the comments, but am I the only one in here who doesn't want to read past 2nd email? If someone sent me some shady email address, then that shady email address sent me a message saying, "Hey it's me that shady email address owner, but I can't get to it, so I am using ANOTHER shady address."

Someone convince me this post of his is not a waste of time.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by iso1631 »

maccard wrote: post #151
csours wrote: post #24

As someone who has worked a corporate job for a while, this is all red flags _BUT_ if you have not worked for a corporation, and you really need a job, you may be motivated to dismiss those little warning signs so you can get paid. Scams don't work because scammers are smart; scams work because scammers exploit our motivations. Beware of charity scams this holiday season.

I've worked at corporate jobs and smaller companies, and frankly if a large company said "here's a list of our authorised resellers, and a signing bonus paid by cheque, please use it to buy equipment as it's faster than going through procurement" I would 100% believe them as at every job I've ever had (before I got a company card) it was faster and easier to just buy and expense. I genuinely wouldn't bat an eyelid un…

I would certainly expect it to be faster than procurement, but not living in the US the concept of receiving a Cheque in the 21st century would raise all forms of red flags. If they deposited the cash directly into my account via a BACS payment, same as my salary, that would be far more believable.

That said, $10k in office expenses for someone starting on $40k a year ($20/hr training) would also raise a flag.

Edit: Do people really get paid by checks in the US?

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by nicolas_t »

Veen wrote: post #158
nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

> Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors I've worked with lots of professionals, including founders and c-suite people, who appear barely literate in emails and online chat. They're often very good talkers and very bad writers.

That's true but in that specific examples, all the errors and turn of phrase are typical of English speakers in India so it's a dead giveaway.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by scarface74 »

omgomgomgomg wrote: post #178
admax88qqq wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's assume the scams are coming from North Korea or Cuba or Russia. You really think that there's more pressure the US apply that will make these countries go "you're right we shouldn't let our citizens scam your citizens" The root issue it archaic payment systems and banks where a check can take 7 days to clear. In this age a bank check should clean in seconds and funds should not be available in your account unti…

People always say Russian scammers are safe if they do Cc fraud etc. This is absolutelly not true, maybe some government collaborators get away with it because it is sanctioned, but the regular joseph will absolutelly go to prison, or be recruited for a war zone.

Why would Russia care if people scam Americans?

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by coding123 »

kebman wrote: post #179
biztos wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself pretty quick to detect scams, having worked in cybersecurity, though probably no quicker than the average HN commenter. And yet 15 years ago I fell for the “sell products that are no longer available” scam. There was a keyboard I really wanted but it was no longer being made. However, I found an online shop that had them in stock! I ordered, paid, got my confirmation, and waited about two weeks befo…

I let my guard down once, because of a third party survey from actually Apple. Then actually Apple allowed the third party to funnel me onto their third party site. And that's where I suddenly found myself subscribed to a $15 fun recurring weekly quiz. I trusted them, because it's Apple, right? Except it wasn't Apple anymore. And, well, it wasn't fun to me so I un-subbed pretty quickly, but the first $15 were already…

I'm guessing Apple would have investigated more had a reporter asked them.
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