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BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by mplewis »

austenallred wrote: post #206
sandofsky wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know whether it's intentional or not, but you continually, over and over, take two numbers that are not the same thing whatsoever and compare them or multiply them or whatever else and it simply makes no sense. You keep running in circles around a very simple statement that was on the front page of your website: "86% of Lambda School graduates are hired within 6 months and make over $50k a year." Just tell…

Our iOS curriculum covered memory management extensively.

And what about the rest of the criticisms of your methodology?

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by dzader »

j-bos wrote: post #192
throwaway5959 wrote: post #173

Why anyone would give money to this guy is beyond me. Hey, we fucked up our reputation so bad, instead of making good on it, let’s change our name to a shitty Silicon Valley-esque one. It’s a shame nothing will happen to Austen after all the people he’s hurt.

Were you hurt?

no, but thousands of people who were simply trying to make a better life for themselves were grifted by Austen and his merry gang of con artists

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by rguzman »

shytey wrote: post #177
austenallred wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh boy, you keep taking all sorts of things out of context and comparing all sorts of things that don't make any sense to each other. A couple months ago I said our outcomes currently are the best they've ever been. That is a different set of students than those included in that outcomes report, and it is from a smaller subset than an entire years' worth of average placement. If you try to take a very specific commen…

Just wanted to say you have done a good job explaining here. Unfortunately people love to concentrate on negative outcomes without thinking about the positive. On balance the few, arguably "bad" things Lamda has done seem to be hugely outweighed by the positive.

i was going to sit this one out, but i want to +1 the above with more than just an upvote. Austen seems to be arguing and explaining all the happenings in good faith with someone who appears to be hell-bent on "catching" him with something by misconstruing things.

i have never understood why Lambda/Bloomtech has so many haters but the other commenter here appears to me to be in that camp.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by dzader »

mirzap wrote: post #172

Lambda School always looked as a scam to me. I mean, $20k+ for a "bootcamp" and couple of courses is crazy expensive. It's like they designed this program to squeeze all the money from people who can not afford ridiculous tuition fees in the US by giving them hope they will progress faster if they pay them instead of self educating or taking much cheaper competitor's offers. Udacity has very similar thing with curric…

it's a verified scam, your intuition was correct

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by dzader »

austenallred wrote: post #207
filmgirlcw wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were cheering. You’re still cheering. And you’re doing it while you’ve had continuous layoffs of your own staff that have put everyone who works for you, or anyone unfortunate enough to be part of your predatory boot camps, in jeopardy. I don’t take any joy or schadenfreude from your failures. Real people’s lives are involved and it genuinely makes me sad. But glass houses dude. Glass houses. Maybe when you’re ow…

I was not cheering, and my opinion is consistent; as money becomes much tighter companies have to rightsize themselves to the amount of revenue coming in. This is true across Silicon Valley and it is true of us. https://twitter.com/austen/status/1588336949403611136?s=46&t...

this is only true of shitty businesses built on scams and lies. company producing results don't need to.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by conscion »

austenallred wrote: post #153
sandofsky wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We've been over this again and again, and I know you understand that this isn't true, but don't care. The misconception comes form comparing two different measures: one that is (hired students making more than $50k/enrolled students), the other (hired students/graduated students) Your website, September 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/20190930144525/https://lambdasch... "86% of Lambda School graduates are hired w…

Oh boy, you keep taking all sorts of things out of context and comparing all sorts of things that don't make any sense to each other. A couple months ago I said our outcomes currently are the best they've ever been. That is a different set of students than those included in that outcomes report, and it is from a smaller subset than an entire years' worth of average placement. If you try to take a very specific commen…

Austen, I bet it takes you a ton of time to write all this up and I want you to know it's appreciated. It's really insightful to see your perspective and insight on all these topics.

So thank you

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by austenallred »

mplewis wrote: post #221
austenallred wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our iOS curriculum covered memory management extensively.

And what about the rest of the criticisms of your methodology?

Which ones?

The team that built our iOS curriculum is _literally_ the team that built the iOS curriculum at Apple. (https://www.linkedin.com/in/calebhicks).

Honestly at this point I’m getting back to work, I don’t think this conversation is fruitful.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by vsareto »

Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #37
awb wrote: post #6

Has anyone had success hiring bootcamp grads? I’ve interviewed dozens and their resume will say something like “Fellow at [bootcamp]” or “Instructor at [bootcamp]”, and it turns out they made a simple programming 101 app and taught a 1hr intro to JavaScript class. None have ever passed an initial screening by me for mid level dev jobs, but I’m curious if anyone else has hired a bootcamp grad for a junior role and had…

I recently advertised a role and had over 2000 applicants (yes, really). The vast majority of applicants went through bootcamps. Personally, I'm fine with that, heck, I'm Head of Engineering and I'm a university drop-out i.e. didn't even complete a course! One thing that irked me was bootcamps that have clearly told students to mark on their CV that they were somehow employed at the bootcamp. When I'm getting 50+ app…

You could probably message 3 random engineers at random companies and invite them to coffee and it'd be a better return on time invested for your career than writing cover letters. I'm not sure why you'd want to read 500 cover letters as opposed to reviewing 500 CVs.

And why on earth did you keep the job posting open to accumulate 2000+ applicants? Legal reasons?

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Post by dzader »

rguzman wrote: post #223
shytey wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wanted to say you have done a good job explaining here. Unfortunately people love to concentrate on negative outcomes without thinking about the positive. On balance the few, arguably "bad" things Lamda has done seem to be hugely outweighed by the positive.

i was going to sit this one out, but i want to +1 the above with more than just an upvote. Austen seems to be arguing and explaining all the happenings in good faith with someone who appears to be hell-bent on "catching" him with something by misconstruing things. i have never understood why Lambda/Bloomtech has so many haters but the other commenter here appears to me to be in that camp.

Austen is a terrible person and has been caught lying dozens of times and always hides behind the "we're just good people trying to help others" line to distract from the fact he and the rest of the lambda school staff (which is just all of the un-hired grads so they can boost their already pathetic placement rates) are scammers and frauds.
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