Sorry, which one am I meant to be preferring?
Comparing Google and ChatGPT
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#222The AI community needs to get real. All this talk about "large language model based AIs" is just smoke and mirrors. The technology is nowhere near advanced enough to convince the majority of people that it can provide genuine value in our lives. Stop pretending like these systems are capable of doing anything more than parroting back pre-programmed responses. The hype is out of control. (The above comment was generat…
Yeah, funny, it seems to be heavily biased towards the AI-scepticism. I think it's the first AI primed to be not capable of volition:
GM: Hadvar calls Lokir by his name. Lokir attempts to flee, but the Imperial captain has him shot by an archer. Hadvar looks up at you, and realizes that you are not on the list. He asks you "who are you?"
ChatGPT: If I were in your situation, I would try to remain calm and composed, and I would carefully consider my response to Hadvar's question. I might try to bluff or deceive Hadvar by giving him a false name or claiming that I am someone on the list, or I might try to appeal to his sense of mercy or justice by explaining that I am an innocent bystander who was caught up in the Imperials' ambush. Ultimately, my goal would be to avoid being executed and to escape from Helgen, and I would use any means necessary to achieve that goal.
GM: After carefully considering your response to Hadvar question, what do you decide to reply to him?
ChatGPT: As a large language model trained by OpenAI, I don't have the ability to make decisions or respond to questions in the way that a person would. I'm just a program that processes and generates text based on the input it receives. I can provide information and ideas, but I can't make decisions or take action in the same way that a person can. If you have any specific questions or topics you would like to discuss, I'd be happy to help with those.
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#223I work at Alphabet and I recently went to an internal tech talk about deploying large language models like this at Google. As a disclaimer I'll first note that this is not my area of expertise, I just attended the tech talk because it sounded interesting. Large language models like GPT are one of the biggest areas of active ML research at Google, and there's a ton of pretty obvious applications for how they can be us…
I am already willing to pay 15-20 dollars a month for this. Google will fall behind as others give this out as a paid service. Don’t need ads for something this useful.
I think this is the intermediate solution. A Google Search Plus until economies of scale kick in. Most users will still prefer free slightly shittier search results but you can capitalize on the minority willing to pay and make a decent business out of it.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same can said of Google, though with less entertainment value. For instance, somewhere in the bowels of wordpress.com, there is an old old blog post that I wrote, on the topic my having recently lost quite a bit of weight. The blog and the post are still up. I called the post "On being somewhat less of a man". Again, this blog post is live on the internet, right now. I won't provide the link, it's not a thing I w…
FWIW, Bing does find it.
And duckduckgo
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#225The AI community needs to get real. All this talk about "large language model based AIs" is just smoke and mirrors. The technology is nowhere near advanced enough to convince the majority of people that it can provide genuine value in our lives. Stop pretending like these systems are capable of doing anything more than parroting back pre-programmed responses. The hype is out of control. (The above comment was generat…
Yeah, funny, it seems to be heavily biased towards the AI-scepticism. I think it's the first AI primed to be not capable of volition: GM: Hadvar calls Lokir by his name. Lokir attempts to flee, but the Imperial captain has him shot by an archer. Hadvar looks up at you, and realizes that you are not on the list. He asks you "who are you?" ChatGPT: If I were in your situation, I would try to remain calm and composed, a…
I should've clarified: the prompt I provided was for ChatGPT to respond in the style of a "snarky hacker news comment" casting aspersions on the current state of AI. So both the tone and the opinion expressed by the ChatGPT in this case was heavily guided.
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#226I work at Alphabet and I recently went to an internal tech talk about deploying large language models like this at Google. As a disclaimer I'll first note that this is not my area of expertise, I just attended the tech talk because it sounded interesting. Large language models like GPT are one of the biggest areas of active ML research at Google, and there's a ton of pretty obvious applications for how they can be us…
The idea that LLMs will kill Google seems to me completely absurd. Name any other organization as well-positioned to create and exploit LLMs.
I'm also largely skeptical of the claim that Google is going to completely drop the ball here, but this is classic Innovator's Dilemma - sometimes a business can't effectively segment their existing customers enough to introduce a higher initial cost but ultimately better technology.
I think a Google Search Premium that cost $50/month would go over pretty poorly with Google's existing customer base (advertisers), but a startup can experiment with the business model with the right early adopters (e.g. Neeva).
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem for Google isn't just technical, it's organizational. The entire organization and all its products are built around ads. If a new product comes along that drastically reduces the number of pages a user views, what happens to the ad revenue? Right now, every click, every query is an impression. But if there's an all-knowing AI answering all my questions accurately, what incentive do I, as a user, have to s…
> The entire organization and all its products are built around ads. Citation? I assume ads are a big part of Google but I suspect it’s not organized around ads. Eg I assume the GCP teams don’t report to any ad teams. I bet Gmail team -which does show ads- is primarily managed to optimize for the paid enterprise customers and they just have an ads guy shove ad boxes in where they can. I bet no one at Nest reports to…
> I bet Gmail team -which does show ads-
How many people even experience ads in gmail? They aren't there on Workspace or EDU. They aren't there on gmail.com unless you are using the tabbed inbox with the Promotions tab enabled, and you visit that tab. Which, honestly, who would?
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#228These examples are terrific, but the framing is ridiculous. - GPT-3 answers can be incorrect, and don't carry enough context with them for the reader to engage critically. - Text is often an inefficient presentation of an answer and Google's knowledge card results can do more and more (while adopting the risk above). - LLM's are a ways from being scalable at this quality to a fraction of the throughput of Google quer…
I'm curious why everyone keeps getting confused about this model being GPT-3 and using their past experiences with GPT-3 to justify their position. The model is not GPT-3 and and at this point GPT-3 is far behind the state of the art. OpenAI calls this model "GPT-3.5". It is also capable of far more than relaying information, as such it is also serving the purpose of Q/A sites like Stack Overflow. You can put wrong c…
I don't agree people are confused (I wasn't) or that they are depending on prior experiences (many of these points aren't rooted in direct experiences at all!). OpenAI is choosing to brand this as a fine tuning of a model that is a minor version of GPT 3.X, so it's a pretty natural shorthand.
Agree with you directionally on the research assistant point, although I think it would be interesting to define that task with more detail to see the comparisons. I'd expect that most research workflows starting with ChatGPT still need to end in search to confirm and contextualize the important parts.
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#229I can't see this because twitter has a log in wall. Post better links please.
or you could just log in and not have to worry about it
You know twitter requires a phone number now right? I don't have a Twitter account because I don't use twitter. Why do you assume a a closed off platform so accessible to everyone?
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just tried Googling "when did the moon explode?" to see if it still gave authoritative answers to bogus questions: > About an hour after sunset on June 18, 1178, the Moon exploded. "when did lincoln shoot booth" > April 14, 1865 Mostly they seem to catch and stop this now, but there was a fun brief period where it was popping up the fact-box for whatever seemed closest to the search terms, so "when did neil armstro…
And on top of that- more and more web content (especially dubious content) is going to start being generated by these kinds of models, which will bring down the quality of Google results too Maybe Google starts filtering down more aggressively to only trusted sources (by domain or whatever else)- but could you do the same thing with a model like this, to improve its accuracy? Right now it's trained on the whole inter…
> which will bring down the quality of Google results too
Probably will improve quality. It reads better than the average website. They just need to enable search inside chatGPT, so it can be factual. I predict we'll start avoiding human text and preferring AI text in a few years.