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Re: Protect me from what I want

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Post by cxr » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 12:53 PM UTC

toofy wrote: post #215

cxr wrote: post #205

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You asked explicitly what the other person was implying. If you ask that and then say that you weren't asking about any subtext, then one of us has some misunderstanding about the meaning of these words—and that person is not me. (This comment by me, for example, is definitely imbued with subtext.) Separately, put some effort into your attempts to have a discussion, please. I.e., beyond the bare minimum that it takes…

i asked: > what do you think they were implying? …because in the previous comment you felt confident enough to answer for them. you said: > No, they weren't saying that. is asking what you think they meant unreasonable?

Yes. The entire question is predicated on there being a subtext. I answered that: assume the words they wrote were what they meant. Believing that "[what] they meant" was something besides that or that there was something else that "they were implying" is to believe that there was a subtext by definition.

Re: Protect me from what I want

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Post by floxy » Wed, Nov 30, 2022, 7:31 PM UTC

themacguffinman wrote: post #150

floxy wrote: post #139

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>Youtube...Don't ignore it, hit the "..." and select the "get tae fuk" option. Is there a way to downvote something on the Youtube "home" page? Before you would click on it to play it? There is a vertical ellipsis, but the only options under that are "Add to Queue" and "Share".

I'd guess it's because you're not logged in. There are three options if you're logged in: - Not interested - Don't recommend channel - Report

>I'd guess it's because you're not logged in.

Thanks for the informative answer.

Re: Protect me from what I want

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Post by KaiserPro » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 10:40 AM UTC

floxy wrote: post #222

themacguffinman wrote: post #150

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I'd guess it's because you're not logged in. There are three options if you're logged in: - Not interested - Don't recommend channel - Report

>I'd guess it's because you're not logged in. Thanks for the informative answer.

if you are on firefox you can use multi-account-containers to limit the reach of google.

I have a container for youtube which is logged in with a specific account. Its different from any work account that I have.

This improves the recommendations 100x. As it means that any videos you view for work, research or away from your main interests don't pollute your recommendations.

Re: Protect me from what I want

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Post by int_19h » Fri, Dec 02, 2022, 8:14 PM UTC

edanm wrote: post #187

andrewmutz wrote: post #14

I completely agree with the article. There is a vast soup of user generated content that could be displayed and there's always an algorithm of some sort employed, even if that algorithm is "show me only content from people I explicitly follow and sort it chronologically". If you wanted to give the social media companies the benefit of the doubt, you would say "they just want to have a feed that the user enjoys and th…

There is in a sense a marketplace of algorithms, or at least, a marketplace of user experiences. That's the actual marketplace. It's the reason Facebook is losing marketshare to Tiktok.

There is, but it's extremely skewed by social graph lock-in.

Re: Protect me from what I want

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Post by int_19h » Fri, Dec 02, 2022, 8:25 PM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #35

ska wrote: post #22

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That seems a-historical. The way you get the real nazis is by not acting soon enough when they target/vilify/'other' marginalized groups, or attempting to get a foothold in political institutions.

It is ahistorical. Germany outlawed Nazi ideology and went 80 years without renazifying; the danger of such was very real after WWII. Marcuse, a German Jew, was considering the real, immediate, terrifying problem of how to prevent another Holocaust.

Germany still has plenty of open Nazis for all their efforts at censorship. Something like the infamous march in Charlottesville was breaking news when it happened precisely because it's so unusual, but much larger neo-Nazi marches happen in Germany on a regular basis.