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Re: EVs are the least reliable vehicle type: Consumer Reports

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Post by _ea1k » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 2:35 PM UTC

krzyk wrote: post #41

mgadams3 wrote: post #16

I've owned 3 EVs and Tesla is the lowest quality car I've ever owned. Teslas weigh down the average b/c they're the majority of EVs on the road.

Teslas the majority? I always assume Tesla was a more luxury brand of EVs. Is there any ranking of amount of EVs by brand sold to date? AFAIR Nissan Leaf was selling quite well some time in Europe. And in 2022 I see BYD sold more vehicles than Tesla, but I can't find data for all the EVs sold in the past.

In the US, the vast majority of EVs on the road are Teslas. Even today, they account for over 50% of sales. Other automakers are not shipping in volume to the US.

Re: EVs are the least reliable vehicle type: Consumer Reports

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Post by _ea1k » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 2:37 PM UTC

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #134

krzyk wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teslas the majority? I always assume Tesla was a more luxury brand of EVs. Is there any ranking of amount of EVs by brand sold to date? AFAIR Nissan Leaf was selling quite well some time in Europe. And in 2022 I see BYD sold more vehicles than Tesla, but I can't find data for all the EVs sold in the past.

> I always assume Tesla was a more luxury brand of EVs. Aren't EVs in generally really still luxury (or at least high middle tier) brands? Are there EV equivalents of a Civic?

The Bolt is the closest in the US. It has very limited DCFC capability compared to the Model 3, though.

Re: EVs are the least reliable vehicle type: Consumer Reports

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Post by _ea1k » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 2:41 PM UTC

starkd wrote: post #111

They neglected to mention the biggest problem of all. EVs in Florida randomly catching fire after a hurricane. It turns out salt water is not so good around EVs. "Fires are not just a concern in the presence of floods. Batteries can overheat, and crashes may damage the batteries, causing fires." https://www.utilitydive.com/news/electric-vehicle-battery-fi...

If fires due to submersion in salt water are the biggest problem, they must be pretty good. Believe it or not, that's a rare situation.

Re: EVs are the least reliable vehicle type: Consumer Reports

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Post by _ea1k » Fri, Nov 18, 2022, 2:45 PM UTC

sk0g wrote: post #139

LinuxBender wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salt is also pervasive on roads that get a lot of snow and ice. UPS is about to implement EV trucks here and I talk to the drivers all the time so I guess time will tell how that works out. AFAIK none of the locals own an EV but they do pass through here on their way to Yellowstone.

When I was in Oslo a few years ago, every third car was a Tesla for whatever reason. Considering I haven't heard of too many catching fire there, I'd wager it should be fine.

The salt thing is about submersion. From the few pictures that I was able to find after Ian, it seems that some started in the front, near the low voltage battery. This sometimes happens with gas cars after hurricanes too, though the effects with BEVs can be more dramatic and require more resources to control.

Road salt wouldn't be enough to cause this issue, as the batteries are pretty well sealed and the low voltage battery is well outside of the elements under normal operation.