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Personally… gnome is where it’s at. Much better keyboard driven workflow than any other environment
For me it is either gnome or i3/sway + rofi.
I love that kde exist and is a great alternative for the people who don't like gnome but it is not for me. I hate windows and am confused by MacOS which feels totally unintuitive to me.
I had to stop the job interview when suddenly they said that I must use Mac. They ship MacBook to you and you have no choice of using Linux or anything else. Corporate policy. It's literally unusable for me after 15+ years on Linux with KDE (mostly). Tried Mac for 4 months at one of the previous jobs but escaped to a comfort zone. Sometimes habits are too strong, and alternative is not appealing enough.
This seems so elitist that seems crazy to me. Maybe you're not as good as you think you are if a GUI change will literally make you "Literally Unusable". Especially with the mac terminal being Darwin which is virtually just Unix, and with Brew you can install literally anything you need for your workflow. I use arch btw.
Unintuitive things about macOS: the bar at the top is used both for app-context menus and for system-context settings. Wuh? If you want to scan something, you have to go via system settings instead of running an app. Wuh? They keep breaking drivers for important things, especially USB things, especially if it so happens that they decide to sell them themselves (like external keyboards). About a year ago I had an issu…
Not unintuitive different to what you are used to.
> If you want to scan something, you have to go via system settings instead of running an app. Wuh?
No, you use Preview.app, which is the default image viewer in macOS, and always has been.
> They keep breaking drivers for important things, especially USB things, especially if it so happens that they decide to sell them themselves (like external keyboards). About a year ago I had an issue where previously functional USB UART drivers stopped working, result being I had to buy a Linux laptop for firmware work. Then, just last week, my Cherry mechanical keyboard stopped working, the windows key had previously functioned seamlessly as 'command' but ceased to do so. No amount of fiddling seemed to fix it. At this point I'll never buy another Apple device.
No different to any other OS. Fedora managed to break my wifi drivers in the last update. More often, it's hardware manufacturers dragging their heels.
> Fixing anything hardwareish requires remembering undocumented key combinations at boot time.
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201255 looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
> No rollback support on config changes.
Sort of, though using Time Machine is very effective.
> One could go on...
One could, and one woud still be mostly wildly incorrect...
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I have used/owned the macs at various points in my life. The user interface has remained consistent over the years, but it has poor usability compared to even Gnome due to the accompanying legacy baggage. Here's an example. Closing all document windows doesn't close the app. This is a design decision from 1984 (at which point we knew far less about the usability of Desktop UIs than we do now) which imho hasn't quite…
>Closing all document windows doesn't close the app I love this about macos. Its consistent: eg, you close documents with cmd+w one by one, until they're all gone. Then you press cmd+n to create a new document. This is consistent and logical. On other OS, cmd/ctrl+w does something different if you're closing the last document. Another example of the inconsistency it causes is in browsers when you close the last tab a…
I wish there were Linux distributions that took an app-centric approach similar to that of macOS. It just gels with my brain better.
> Linux is great if you don't value your time Continues to be one of my favorite quotes. Yes I can spend endless hours getting arch installed with only the packages I want/need making sure it's totally optimized and then what, every single other part of my workflow now has to work around the limitations of linux. One day perhaps, but for now, macOS will do.
Honestly I use macOS because I like my MacBook Air and having access to a somewhat proper version of Office but all these discussions are weird to me. Installing Linux takes literally the same amount of time than any other OS and if you are a developer, it just works. It was on every machines at a previous company and well, it worked fine. To be honest, even Windows mostly works fine nowadays. I’m still puzzled by wh…
I don't believe you've ever actually used (or maybe setup) linux because I don't know of a single workflow that your average linux distro ships ready to develop on. You still need to download packages, dependencies, editors/IDE's to do anything.
Linux is still leagues better than windows. But it has nowhere near the reliability and software support as macOS. Anyone saying it does is outright delusional.
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> pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. As long as you don't care about the fact that brew is slow as hell, or can't actually handle versions and dependencies properly (installed `gpg` the other day, it updated Python and SQLite and 50 other packages to the latest version, regardless of major or minor), yeah, it's a package manager. Kind of. It still boggles my mind Apple hav…
Linux user since 2000 or so. Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and Gentoo, all heavily, with a little use of some other distros (Void, Arch, probably some others I'm forgetting about). All around, Brew's my favorite package manager I've used. And yes, I started with Macports, so I've used that too.
The article seems ignorant of native tools built right into macOS. For example, it claims macOS is missing: > Missing native Alt+Tab and individual window switching (only does app switching) This is simply false, and the whole list is by someone who just hasn't made an effort to learn how to use a new OS they are not familiar with. For example, I just use Command-tilda, two keys right next to each other, to switch be…
To be honest I stopped caring what OS I'm running as long as it is not windows. I have a terminal open 99% of the time and I almost never open finder or Gnome Files. pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. VS Code is basically the same on every system. Gnome/KDE/MacOS all of them have there pros and cons. Right now what wins for me is the apple silicon. I can develop stuff with…
> pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. As long as you don't care about the fact that brew is slow as hell, or can't actually handle versions and dependencies properly (installed `gpg` the other day, it updated Python and SQLite and 50 other packages to the latest version, regardless of major or minor), yeah, it's a package manager. Kind of. It still boggles my mind Apple hav…
It would be good if it was a bit smarter like the linux ones.
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Linux user since 2000 or so. Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and Gentoo, all heavily, with a little use of some other distros (Void, Arch, probably some others I'm forgetting about). All around, Brew's my favorite package manager I've used. And yes, I started with Macports, so I've used that too.
Why? Objectively, it has huge flaws compared to Linux package managers (permissions, sudo, capricious renaming of binaries).
People tend to forget MacOS is BSD under the hood, not a Linux distribution. So the way it handles installation software is going to be different. I personally think the way BSD handles software is better, Linux blurs the line between 3rd party software and system dependencies and that causes all kinds of issues when it’s time to update or remove stuff.
How does BSD avoid this? I guess package manager installed software does get lumped in, but is that really 3rd party software in a meaningful sense? I very much like how it's all in one place.
User-installed software usually gets installed into /usr/local or /opt, which is separate from the system-managed trees.