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U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
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#222>>no one is sure why
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Re: U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
They also fought it because they didn't go to medical school and survive residency to fill out forms all damn day—and they didn't used to have to, they had staff for that. Then the computerized systems "replaced" that staff but all that really means is they cut the human time needed low enough that full-time workers weren't needed, but didn't eliminate it, so now that's another thing doctors have to do themselves. AF…
Sounds like modern startup devops-without-devops culture
Shift left amirite? Same with DBAs.
Re: U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
#224Its simple. The healthy people moved away. Its obvious that much of the GDP is based on low aptitude/low skilled products and services (i call it fat juice and fat juice filtering, looking at buffetts investing advice). An unhealthy environment is not something to grow old with. In the states, we can see that the illegal migration dumping is caused by the unskilled labor needed to support archaic GDP numbers. As a te…
Maybe i'm too stupid to decipher your message entirely but the healthy people moved away? To where?
Not to you, obviously. It was a reference to participation (the lack thereof)
And I should have linked a source, but business outsourcing was more of referring to manufacturing in china and the counterfit goods. Software is obviously easier to hijack too.
It is cool seeing the karma go up and down on this post. Its back to (1) :)
A global forum is always fun :p
Its simple. The healthy people moved away.
Re: U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
#225The lowering of standards, shortages, expensive fuel, food inflation are all reminiscent of Communism. People don't feel like working for a system when it seems to be failing them. A million dollars for a new home, when the lower bracket still makes under 50k, and get raises in cents. Just kind of kills incentive to work hard, when even if you do starve and penny pinch your way into some savings, inflation will eat i…
"Communism is when capitalism". What you're describing are literally failures of capitalism.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Excellent, this provides productive evidence for a 4 day work week if everything still runs with folks checked out on Fridays and they’re not in the office performing work theater. https://www.4dayweek.com/ Labor power in the face of a recession comes from dwindling labor supply. 360k boomers retire each month in the US. 1.8 million people over the age of 55 die every year. Not enough folks to backfill. https://archi…
"Everything still runs" could be applied in a lot of situations, but it's not necessarily a desirable state. Everything still runs at McDonalds if there are half as many cashiers, but it will take a lot longer to get your Big Mac. Everything still runs at the hospital if there are half as many nurses, but the level of care is much worse. You get the idea.
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#227"Rushing makes messes." - Robert C. Martin
Re: U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, but it's the records that are standard, digital and transferrable; not the work. So what you end up optimizing for is producing paperwork.
huh? if the records are "standard, digital and transferrable", it means all of the work associated with those records is sped up. - Need to retrieve past doctor visits about a patient? person at front desk no longer needs to walk to the folder closet, then scan the whole thing to find your name and then read through all of the documents to find the relevant visits. just click a button. - How about getting the prescri…
That will only be a speed-up if the time saved from easier information retrieval is smaller than the time spent in increased paperwork, which it may or may not be, but is an assertion that needs justification.
In general, I'll note producing documentation is fairly slow and tedious. It takes something like an order of magnitude longer to write a sentence than to read it. So this optimization is only going to be a productivity boost if this paperwork is accessed repeatedly, dozens of times in the course of treatment (the productive thing).
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#229From the actual BLS report:
> Labor productivity, or output per hour, is calculated by dividing an index of real output by an index of hours worked by all persons, including employees, proprietors, and unpaid family workers.
This metric IMO seems to be sensitive to other macro indicators. The recent economic slow down means less real output while the tight labor market means the same or more nominal hours worked. The slowdown in any industry sensitive to interest rates means a lot of people talking and waiting on how to adapt but fewer projects and products developed and delivered.
Re: U.S. workers have gotten less productive – no one is sure why
#230Lots of people are productive WFH, but loads are taking it easy. Often in my team Fridays people barely dial in, maybe are connected a few hours max. Thursday afternoons now are dead as people get ready for the weekend... Job market is still strong so no one really cares that much as we know we're difficult to replace.
I switched jobs at the beginning of the year, and still haven't figured out if people here just don't work on Fridays or did that start with WFH?
Anecdote of one, but as someone whose job involves a lot of "pinging" and "chasing" people for approvals, code reviews, sign-offs and so on, I have found during the last couple of years, it's nearly impossible to get a reply out of people on Fridays, so I've learned that if I need someone's response by end-of-week on some topic, I need to do my heavy-chasing on Thursdays or I'm not going to get it.
This is very different from pre-WFH where I could physically find the person on Friday and stand there until they did whatever needed to be done.
I'm also a huge proponent of our new WFH world, but even I notice and can admit this disappearance of Fridays.