Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

Post by stouset » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

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And just in time for MagSafe's return...the iPhone will go to USB-C! Of course, you can still charge a Mac over USB-C — it's just not as much of a unification as it seems.

Does MagSafe charging cause a Macbook Pro to heat up in the same way that USB-C charging on the left side of the device does? When I saw that on my new M1 Max, I assumed so, so I never used it. (Also because I had USB-C charging for everything else...except my iPhone.)

Post by Marsymars » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 5:56 PM UTC

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> That would double the amount of iPhone models they need to manufacture and sell. Aren't they already doing that with the US iPhone 14 models now having no SIM tray vs the rest of the world with SIM trays?

Not an expert but I would think not putting a board in is way easier than putting in a different one. It's also harder to manage supply for two different boards with different connectors, making different cables, split the accessories ecosystem etc. Apple, esp. under Tim Cook, is super efficient when it comes to this stuff.

Post by gnicholas » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 5:59 PM UTC

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> But even those non-tech people should have some USB-C cables lying around at this point I do have a couple of these, from my old MBP and my iPad Pro. What I don't have many of are USB-C bricks. I have tons of USB-A bricks that work with all of my micro USB devices (wireless keyboard, Beats, bike lights, etc.) and my Lightning devices (iPhone, several iPads, several AirPods). If all of these devices move over to USB…

> there's no gain from my perspective Maybe this'll broaden that perspective a little: Apple devices since the iPhone 8 support USB-PD with C-to-Lightning cables now, and it's much faster. Decent USB-C chargers are a noticeable quality-of-life improvement.

Post by throwaway434814 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

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>> existing industry standards appear to suffice >reminder: lightning came first Lightning was never a standard.

> Lightning was never a standard. Yes, it is. DisplayPort is a standard too. So is HDMI. They're not USB-IF standards, but they're a standard. And there can exist more than one organization promulgating standards in an area, sometimes even (gasp!) private, closed, for-profit ones (like HDMI). Like HDMI is so closed and proprietary you can't even implement HDMI 2.1 on linux lol, it's still a standard . If you want to…

Post by genghisjahn » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

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> I'm more cynical in my interpretation of Apple's motives: I think they just wanted those licensing dollars They've switched every other non-iPhone device to USB-C. The more plausible interpretation would be that they don't want to piss off a core constituency of customers who've built up 10 years of Lightning cables. The number of people who care about standardizing on USB-C are definitely less than the vocal folks…

> They've switched every other non-iPhone device to USB-C The only device I know of that started out on lighting and switched to USB-C was the iPad, and that was specifically because they're pushing it as a "creator" device, for which people needed to be able to plug in things like flash drives, SD card adaptors, cameras, mice and keyboards, etc. There's significantly less drive for those kinds of accessories on iPho…