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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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I mean if a single package being stolen from your porch counts, then I'm surprised it isn't higher over five years . And porch pirates abound in suburbia too. The actual scary thefts are home breakins and muggings. I feel like the headline wants you to think it's those, when it's mostly stolen packages or something.

The headline made me think of car break-ins and stolen packages.

Smashing into somebody's car is a bit more severe than porch pirating. But yeah it's not on the level of mugging ofc.

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --there were vagrants and muggings but for the most part, if you kept away from the bad neighborhoods, you were unaffected.

When I first came to SF the city was int he grip of a crack epidemic and. I've seen people get shot in the face broad daylight and been in the middle of a driveby. The city is going through an uptick in crime at the moment but its mainly property crime. I don't feel significantly less safe, though that's partly because I have a lot of experience with unsafe situations.

A large part of this is simply driven by poverty and prices. Policymakers, business owners, and pundits naturally want a city full of high-earning go-getters whose money will increase the general level of prosperity, fair enough. But there's some sort of naive belief that people at the bottom end of the scale magically teleport themselves away to other labor/residential markets where they'll be more competitive, because economics class made it look just that simple.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely can blame DAs for not brining charges. The rule of law is literally the only deterrence to anti-social behavior.

Crime has increased under the new DA… Seems like the rule of law isn’t much of a deterrence in this case

Crime increased ... or crime reports increased. Perhaps people are now reporting crime because the police and DA will actually do something.

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

Can you provide any... yaknow... evidence that crime is going up on average? Just a quick Google implies that this is a complete fabrication https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Che... https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim... https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/san-francisco-crime-r... >Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. The irony of saying t…

I’m not exactly invested in a side here, but doesn’t the first article concede that people aren’t reporting larceny crimes because the police aren’t doing anything about it?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#225

Here's a good place to compare to other cities, if comparing is even a reasonable thing to do [1]. Sort by Total for Property Crime. Notably Albuquerque, Spokane, and Memphis have higher total property crime rates. But perhaps wouldn't make such an interesting headline for those in tech. Also notable that Orlando, FL is high on the list. But Irvine, CA and Tampa, FL are at the bottom of the list. Please also read the…

Interesting facts about Irvine: It’s owned entirely by one of the largest (maybe the largest) real estate company in the US, The Irvine Company. They also have a heavy presence in Sunnyvale CA. Irvine buildings and neighborhoods - all of them - are built intentionally to be anti-crime. Things like alleys and dark corners are virtually non-existent.

The Irvine Company is solely owned by one man now.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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A lot of unbelievable stats in this article. "only 12% of residents say that racism does not make solving problems more difficult." That's an odd finding to me. SF has always struck me as very progressive, but now I'm seeing that a large majority of the city thinks the city has a racism problem.

My anecdotal experience with progressive family is that racism is the root cause of almost any problem you can think of.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Baltimore? Tech jobs? Nice home? Don’t get me wrong, Baltimore has fun bars and Orioles games are fun..but I’ve never once heard anyone try to sell Baltimore as a great place for tech workers to live and work from

I've never heard Baltimore described as a place with a low crime rate! I guess it depends on what you're comparing it to. Just one recommendation. Don't move to Charleston. It's awful here, you'll hate it. ^^;

He might be talking about Baltimore County. Though parts of Baltimore are fairly to pretty nice like Canton, Fells Point and Harbor East. These neighborhoods are mostly populated by professionals. These neighborhoods could see a murder cumulatively once every few months or less.

One annoying thing in Baltimore is the squeege kids. Umm I have no need for you to come up to my car and wash my windows..I have windshield wipers.

As for homeless, drug addicts, and the mentally ill ..they do not litter the streets along with their problems like they do in the wasteland that is San Francisco.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide any... yaknow... evidence that crime is going up on average? Just a quick Google implies that this is a complete fabrication https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-crime-Che... https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim... https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/san-francisco-crime-r... >Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. The irony of saying t…

The article you’re commenting on is evidence and data. Are you aware that you’re countering data gathered by a long-standing reputable newspaper with data gathered by the police department? Do you think there’s some other way of measuring theft besides people saying “I am the victim of a theft”?

I don't see how it's useful evidence when there's no time series. What if more people were victims of crime in the past and this number has improved?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

The Mayor of San Francisco appointed a tough-on-crime prosecutor who has spoken in public in favor of reviving failed policies like the war on drugs, purged employees hired by her progressive predecessor, and canceled investigations into police misconduct. You already have the most reactionary, cuff-em-and-stuff-em prosecutor you’re likely to get in San Francisco. So if crime is still a problem, you’re going to have…

Chesa left office in early July. That's only a little over 3 months ago. If the situation hasn't improved in a year or two, you would have a point. Right now, it looks more like you are bending the facts to fit a particular political agenda.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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post #119

SF is funny. If you complain about the crime, lots of long-time residents are loath to admit crime has gone up. "It's been like this since I can remember." "Born and raised fifth generation SFer, no, it's always been like this." Ideology gets the best of people and they don't want to believe. Sure, there have been nadirs before, the 80's after all industry left and only some financial services were left downtown --th…

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