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DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by imagetic »

It's awesome to see such a widespread response from outside the video production industry. Blackmagic has been charging ahead with Resolve development and managed to carve a niche of the industry most people thought was impossible.

I'm excited about the possibilities this could bring. For now I mostly just have a lot of questions. This sounds like it will be for smaller production work, like vlog/podcast/promo shorts where the iPads limited storage will be capable.

The cut page is a nifty idea, it makes tasks like interview string-outs and cut-downs a fairly straightforward process. I don't know a single editor who uses it though.

Color wise, assuming I can sync my stills and take the iPad on the go, would be useful in some scenarios. But that's an expensive commodity. Generally when we go to color, it requires far more storage than an iPad is capable of.

I want to love it. But right now, I'm far more skeptical of its real world usefulness. I mostly just have a lot of workflow questions. I was personally hoping for something that was more of an extension of the desktop app than a standalone product.

One thing Blackmagic needs to do is bring the advanced Resolve features into the support realm and workflow documentation. The collaboration server and the cloud sync are mystery products. There's almost no formal support or documentation on how they work, how to solve a sync issue or overwrite when they happen, or to get actual feedback on issues from real engineers.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by simonh »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #92
simonh wrote: post #89

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If you can find evidence of a different system that’s come anywhere close to raising living standards of ordinary citizens nearly as much, I’d love to hear about it. And no, China doesn’t have a communist economy, pretty much everything productive about China is capitalist.

wengrow & graeber's recent research shows plenty of evidence (post discovery of agriculture and well beyond dunbar's number), that's a good place to start with your question. tangentially, mark fisher is also good for unpacking what you've said

Thanks for pointing me to wengrow & graeber. I've not read the book, but went through the summary on wikipedia which seems pretty good. It's interesting and I don't have any problem with the claims or conclusions in the summary, butI don't really see how it critiques capitalism.

It talks about the fact that progress isn't linear and that societies don't inevitably become more hierarchical, and I agree that seems right. In fact I could argue that capitalism is precisely an example of societies becoming more decentralised as Europe moved away from feudal and state monopoly systems, and individual financial, association, labour and property rights became established. At the same time monarchic and imperial systems gave way to democratic forms of government, with a few autocratic bumps along the road.

So to me liberal democratic capitalism is much more similar to the egalitarian societies encountered by European imperialists than it is to those imperial systems of the time. The only difference is that technological advances in transport, communication and the management of complexity have massively scaled up economic activity and the benefits that flow from it.

But then from what I can Tell Mark Fisher denied that there is such a thing as an economy. I'm not sure I rally get what he meant. anyway thanks for the references.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by CobaltFire »

Gigachad wrote: post #186
CobaltFire wrote: post #180

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The tests I’ve seen say that (depending on how you implement it) an iPad Pro M1 only pulls 5Gbps (directly powering) to 7.7Gbps (powered) out of a 10GbE card. Has there been some development in this area?

Not sure. But I'm sure 5Gbps is probably good enough for any work you'd be doing on an ipad.

I'd generally agree, with the caveat that running a video editing workflow off of a NAS/SAN would want all the speed it can get, which is 10GbE at this time on MacOS/iPad OS (AQC107 chip).

So for copying files over it's bit slower, but for working with stuff it could be a pretty big issue. I really don't know; I haven't tried it as my iPad Pro is an earlier non-TB model.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by jrickert »

orloffm wrote: post #220
hatware wrote: post #195

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Most cameras can plug directly into the iPad.

So how do you move files from cameras to external USB-C drives? By having a dock/splitter that allows to connect both at the same time?

Yeah, a USB-C hub should do it. Also some cameras record directly to USB-C drives.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by jhasse »

zeckalpha wrote: post #213
jhasse wrote: post #206

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> A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video. I doubt this is true. In 2006 (so 16 years ago) I bought a mid-tier Windows laptop with a 80 GB IDE HDD and I was cutting uncompressed DV avi files on it in Adobe Premiere just fine. Real time preview and everything.

DV was SD and lossy video compression, even if you used AVI as the wrapper format.

> lossy video compression

oh, didn't know that. Good to know, I stand corrected then :)

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by mkr-hn »

jokoon wrote: post #226
mkr-hn wrote: post #116

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How could you try something that didn't exist?

not talking about the ipad version, obviously

Then what's the relevance of the comment about stability? This thread is about the coming iPad version. It's reasonable to assume you're talking about it (or confused and in the wrong place), given that's the topic of the submission.

Desktop video editors are notoriously unstable (assuming since you didn't specify). It's probably not the same codebase, and it'll be operating under clearer constraints the developers can target for maximum stability and performance.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by haldean »

bitL wrote: post #54
clean_send wrote: post #15

This is incredible on so many fronts. 5-10 years ago, I would choose my computer based on it's potential to edit video. A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video. 5 years ago, having iMovie on your Ipad allowed us to make sub <5 minute videos of low-res/processed files. Now we have an intersection of 1. an Ipad is powerful enough to handle this type of data processing and 2. BMD has fo…

How is iPad going to handle RAW 8k video? Its highest storage is small, good only for a scratch disk at best or for very short movies.

The workflow many post-production studios use for editing/grading is to keep files on a NAS with proxies (i.e., lower-quality transcodes of the video clips in the edit) on a local disk -- that's the workflow I use even with my desktop machine, and I bet it'll work well with this too.

Re: DaVinci Resolve for iPad

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Post by TheRealPomax »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #160
TheRealPomax wrote: post #28

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As long as folks don't think it's an NLE, because that's the one thing it isn't. (Even though half of its users try to use it for that, get stuck, post on the forum, and then get the other half yelling at them because "it's not an NLE". 17 and 18 took things in the right direction, but it's still going to take a few more versions before people giving it a shot because they think it's a free Premiere or After Effects…

I genuinely think you've never used an NLE, or Resolve.

Odd thing to just go and declare without any actual evidence to guide your thinking process, so: you are genuinely about as wrong as can be.
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