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Agree - you would never see a man turning down a woman because she had a different phone.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32765884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32766935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32766998
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Is WhatsApp open? Are there alternative clients?
Even better: it's a player in a competitive market. So you can switch your chats one-by-one to Signal, Telegram or whatever floats your boat.
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Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.
Using Facebook to do messaging? No thanks! Sure, when communicating with international friends I use WhatsApp because that appears to be what the rest of the world uses, but here in the States? No. We don't trust Zuckerberg. And yes, iMessage group chats are very much a thing here in the States and SMS group chats in general. And also yes, there's always that techie friend with an Android and makes your whole convers…
Nonetheless, it is a self-made problem in the US, which wouldn’t even make sense in the EU because we don’t have such a high percentage of apple devices.
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It's certainly an issue with a lot of teenagers. Speaking broadly, social status and brands say a lot at that age, and you could miss out on friends or social occasions based on it. As an adult of course the green/blue bubbles simply don't matter, we grow up and realise that, but it certainly is a significant issue if it's affecting young peoples lives. So I'd say it's somewhere inbetween what you descibe, perhaps a…
> I have heard of people saying they won't date green or blue bubble people But how many times, really? It's like the missing iPhone headphone jack. The press and bloggers hammered away at it for years, making sure it was an ongoing meme in all coverage, but... do people really care? Some people, sure.. but enough for the coverage? Same with bubbles.
Of course Apple does not need to care what I think, as I am not likely to buy their products anyway.
I've never heard an actual human express noticing or caring about the color of the bubble.
Kids do it, I've heard it, it's an actual thing in that age group, adults don't care. It's like having a collection of gobots instead of transformers if you're an 80s kid.
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WhatsApp doesn't have anywhere near the same lockin as Apple. You can run multiple messaging apps even on a low end android phone.
Lock-in through the network effect is lock in. The fact that it’s the de facto standard outside the US is quite a network effect. SMS by contrast is an open standard.
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Apple's messages app isn't really an app; it comes preinstalled on the phone, you can't remove it or substitute it with another app, and you can't install it on non-Apple hardware. The lock-in is obvious: if you're part of Apple-oriented chat groups you can't switch to Android without losing access to those groups, degrading the experience for everyone, or convincing each one of those groups to make the switch to a m…
> Apple's messages app isn't really an app; it comes preinstalled on the phone, you can't remove it or substitute it with another app, and you can't install it on non-Apple hardware. I'm not sure, but I don't think you can actually uninstall the default SMS from Android phones either without having another app installed at a minimum and then I bet similar to Messages if you were to somehow uninstall that app then the…
No. Why would it?
> I don't know what you mean by you cannot substitute Messages with another app.
On Android, if you don't like the SMS app you can replace it with another app that has all the same functionality (and more). Does Apple let you do that?
> What is an Apple-oriented chat group?
Please engage with the discussion. One that uses Apple's proprietary SMS extensions, obviously.
I have just compared the “gross” bubble from the article with my “real” bubble. Made a screenshot of both and used the ios color picker. “Gross”: #7EC170 Real from the bottom of the message reel: #65C466 Real from the top: #73E173 No issues with contrast in either case. Also keep in mind that those color hexes will slightly vary depending on where exactly you decide to pick since bubbles are filled with gradients. No…