Crypto is pretty much speed running our existing financial institutions’ past history.
What's hilarious to me is that crypto boosters would often cheer about how crypto doesn't "suffer" from the same things as our existing financial system (e.g. potential run on the bank in a fractional reserve system) - but then they went and built up all the same things they originally said crypto was immune from, this time with no regulations or legal framework.
Celsius Execs Cashed Out $40M in Crypto Before Halting Withdrawals for Customers
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Re: Celsius Execs Cashed Out $40M in Crypto Before Halting Withdrawals for Customers
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How do you safely use crypto?
It's quite easy: you download this Zero Knowledge Confabulator utility from github and load it up into your TAILS instance. Make sure you pull all this over Tor and use a North Korean VPN and please for the love of god verify the MD5 hashes. Once you've done this, you put your wallet key into the ConfabUtil which will produce a zk-snark. Memorize this because you will next need to go into an airgapped, seismically is…
Re: Celsius Execs Cashed Out $40M in Crypto Before Halting Withdrawals for Customers
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you safely use crypto?
It's quite easy: you download this Zero Knowledge Confabulator utility from github and load it up into your TAILS instance. Make sure you pull all this over Tor and use a North Korean VPN and please for the love of god verify the MD5 hashes. Once you've done this, you put your wallet key into the ConfabUtil which will produce a zk-snark. Memorize this because you will next need to go into an airgapped, seismically is…
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Why can't both exist though? Each with their own advantage/disadvantages, and you get to choose which one to use after considering the tradeoffs. Things I would use crypto for: * Money transfers, particularly cross border payments. Low fees, quick confirmation from all parties. * Any transaction that I would like to keep my privacy on (and this does not mean illegal things, btw). Things I would never use crypto for:…
Crypto is bad at money transfers. It's low capacity. That's why nobody is using BTC to pay for pizza anymore. It's also bad at privacy, since the architecture for most crypto systems relies on storing a permanent, non-modifiable public ledger. Your usage case doesn't really work because almost nobody cares about that. You'll find a few idealists interested in that, and a very few people that need to transact with som…
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> yes, I can steal your Bitcoin Let's fix that phrase: - yes, I can steal your Bitcoin keys And then go further and transfer the bitcoins Other than that, no, you CANNOT steal "my" bitcoins
Um, no, I don't think language works like that. Let's try to rephrase that with gold: "You CANNOT steal the gold under my mattress. You can steal my keys or break my door, walk in and then move the gold from my house to your car and drive off.". Don't you agree the above is equivalent to me stealing your gold?
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You lend Celsius some coins. In return they promise to pay you some % of interest. Celsius takes those coins and sticks them in another lending system that pays them a higher % of interest. The other lending system collapses and cannot return the coins because of an exploit. Celsius customers demand their coins back and Celsius cannot return them.
> The other lending system collapses and cannot return the coins because of an exploit And also because the entire business model is completely unsustainable, preying on peoples greed.
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You keep talking about "multi-sig wallets" in multiple posts. Are you going to have courts in every relevant jurisdiction have a handle on that wallet? That seems unlikely to go over well with the sorts of people who take these seriously.
I don't know, that's a good question. That's the discussion we should be having, instead of flat out stating that it's impossible. The "sorts of people who take these seriously" will never be happy, so that's fine.
One still does not exist for cryptocurrency.
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With a hardware wallet where you store your seed phrase. You would never type this seed anywhere. You would store backups of this seed in something like a metal sheet that you can buy. You would be extremely careful of the numerous phishing attempts that you will encounter. Also with malicious smart contracts. And you would have a hot and cold wallet, to minimize risk.
Remember that this is an alternative to a small card that is widely accepted internationally that I can reclaim a transaction with a quick phone call.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
With a hardware wallet where you store your seed phrase. You would never type this seed anywhere. You would store backups of this seed in something like a metal sheet that you can buy. You would be extremely careful of the numerous phishing attempts that you will encounter. Also with malicious smart contracts. And you would have a hot and cold wallet, to minimize risk.
Remember that this is an alternative to a small card that is widely accepted internationally that I can reclaim a transaction with a quick phone call.
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Huh? If that was true then it would be services like AAVE or Uniswap which would be bankrupt, not the centralized finance Celsius. The idea that the traditional legal system prevents funny business with money is naive. 9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU The Pentagon’s $35 Trillion Accounting Black Hole https://www.yahoo.com/video/pentagon-35-trilli…
How much money have you lost from your private bank account...?
The number is greater than two.