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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by kwhitefoot »

brodouevencode wrote: post #217
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

What is a "10' experience"?

Sitting three metres from the screen I presume.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by puzzlingcaptcha »

stragies wrote: post #212
puzzlingcaptcha wrote: post #211

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I think it is meant as an open-source product OEMs can put on their TVs instead of some in-house Android TV derivative. Sadly it's a non-starter without widevine certification.

Is "capable of Widevine certification" not tantamount to "Has HW/FW/SW in place to securely lock out the user/owner, and introduce backdoors"?

Most likely, but I mean from OEM's point of view. Noone wants to sell a TV that can't play Netflix.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by Lammy »

brodouevencode wrote: post #217
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

What is a "10' experience"?

It’s the common term for a user interface that’s large and legible to users sitting across a room from the display: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by kwhitefoot »

safety1st wrote: post #202
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

The splash screen makes it look like this is something you can simply install on a television of your choice.

It is perfectly reasonable to criticise the marketing when it gets in the way of the message. Having to find and read the FAQ to discover that it is basically just a prototype desktop environment for existing distros is a bit silly.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by safety1st »

chasil wrote: post #216
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

Is this essentially Lineage for smart TVs? Can the vendor OS be wiped from these devices? If so, is there a list?

I think that's close to, or part of, their vision: https://plasma-bigscreen.org/vision/

What they have in the Downloads section now is basically a variety of distro images which you can run on a Pi, or a device that supports pmOS, etc. There's a long way to go before you could buy any random smart TV and flash this onto it. Though maybe less long if you have a smart TV with an embedded Pi which might be a thing these days?

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Post by greyhair »

comboy wrote: post #152
lrvick wrote: post #150

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They do, which is why you should never connect them to the internet.

Seriously? Well not connecting them to the internet works less and less, Amazon is rolling out their 900Mhz mesh with echo devices and there's LTE-M, NB-IoT and such. The idea of not letting a device connect to the Internet is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless you live in a faraday cage (which is becoming more and more tempting). Oh, correction, thanks to mesh networks like that of Alexa living in a Faraday…

If all my neighbors dive into Amazon 'sidewalk' at 900Mhz, and trash my DECT handsets and my ZWave IoT, I am going to be really pissed.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by sbarre »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #224
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

The splash screen makes it look like this is something you can simply install on a television of your choice. It is perfectly reasonable to criticise the marketing when it gets in the way of the message. Having to find and read the FAQ to discover that it is basically just a prototype desktop environment for existing distros is a bit silly.

I will admit that at first glance I thought this was a firmware hack for TVs, and I immediately started digging around the site to try to find a list of compatible TVs...

Once I found out what it was, it was still quite cool and I am curious to follow development, but I agree the site design/layout/copy is confusing at best, misleading at worst.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by matheusmoreira »

jbay808 wrote: post #196
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #170

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Funny, since DRM is never an issue if you play pirated content. Arrgh maties! But ironically, DRM is only a huge annoyance for paying law abiding customers. Did you pay Ubisoft $50 10 years ago for Assassin's Creed 2, am amazing game? Great, because now you can go f*ck yourself instead of playing the game since Ubisoft took the server running the DRM for that game offline. Did you pirate the game? Great, because now…

I purchased DUNE on YouTube. Turns out even after paying full price, the image quality is limited to 480P unless you watch via a smart TV. To prevent piracy, or something.

Even worse is the fact that they sacrifice quality for bandwidth. Even if you manage to meet all their silly DRM requirements, you get poor quality video that's high definition in name only. There are titles in Netflix that have compression artifacts in 90% black frames.

Meanwhile pirates enjoy Blu-Ray rips encoded by people known for taking pride in providing the highest possible quality.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by greyhair »

irjustin wrote: post #71
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Admittedly i thought this as well. was hoping for a new plasma tech! Not that i think it's better, just nostalgia - it was the first 'new gen' tv I owned back in 2007. Heavy but well worth it at the time.

Still running my Panasonic 50" Plasma from that era. So heavy. And yes they are power hogs, but in reality, ours really isn't on that often. Three, maybe four hours a week, on average.

But oh, the picture quality back then, compared to LCDs and rear projection. No comparison, and even today, it holds up well.

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