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Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by trinovantes »

shagie wrote: post #218
RobotToaster wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github for some reason disables search engine indexing of wikis, not sure about discussions.

The problem that they have (and other user content created sites) if indexing was on is that SEO spammers use it to dump lots of links to sites. That you don't see this is an indication that it works and dissuading those spammers. Consider all the nearly forgotten repos out there that you occasionally stumble over and that there are no "work from home and get $30/hour - click here" or a dozen forms of "somespam.examp…

But this doesn't explain why Issues are indexable on Google

What's the difference between a spammer creating their own repo and creating a bunch of issues with spam links vs their own repo and creating a bunch of wiki pages with spam links?

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by shagie »

trinovantes wrote: post #221
shagie wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem that they have (and other user content created sites) if indexing was on is that SEO spammers use it to dump lots of links to sites. That you don't see this is an indication that it works and dissuading those spammers. Consider all the nearly forgotten repos out there that you occasionally stumble over and that there are no "work from home and get $30/hour - click here" or a dozen forms of "somespam.examp…

But this doesn't explain why Issues are indexable on Google What's the difference between a spammer creating their own repo and creating a bunch of issues with spam links vs their own repo and creating a bunch of wiki pages with spam links?

The difference is likely the ability for the community to flag and moderate a comment rather than an entire wiki and repository.

That said, the wiki workflow, permissions, and limitations in formatting may push people who are after a more durable store of information to create a GitHub pages site which is then managed with the same workflow (forks, pull requests, and reviews) as code, along with the ability for search engines to index the GitHub pages site.

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by phendrenad2 »

datpuz wrote: post #163

I wonder if Discord will ever catch on in the corporate world. I use Slack for work and Discord for recreation. Is it just me, or does Discord just seem vastly superior to Slack? Slack is so tedious to navigate by comparison, especially when you have many channels with separate PMs in them. Discord just continues to get better in the right ways, but Slack just feels bloated with features that it takes too much effort…

It's inevitable. Discord is still not profitable, and when it comes time to pay the bills with real money, they'll probably scramble to re-brand themselves with a boring name (maybe Coherence - the opposite of Discord) and try to capture some corporate clients. I can just hear the salespeople now: "We're just like Slack, only better!" (No mention of gamers anywhere).

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by matkoniecz »

gaius_baltar wrote: post #190
matkoniecz wrote: post #17

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Is it possible to setup within two minutes forum that will be hosted for free and has decent interface with minimal ads (to the point that many will not recognize them as ads)? Right now Discord has great usability and many people have Discord accounts.

> has decent interface with minimal ads For now, while they still in "bait mode". If experience has something to show in the web is that once they go into switch mode, the more and more ads will come, interface will become worse as in a bad Facebook clone, site will become intentionally unusable on mobile to force people to install the app (with even more ads and tracking!), every minimally controversial subject for…

Oh definitely, especially given proprietary lock-in and effects of scale.

That is why I put "Right now Discord has great usability"

> platform will start requiring phone numbers

That is de facto happening already.

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by Daegalus »

pteraspidomorph wrote: post #114
TheFlyingFish wrote: post #96

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My guess is that a lot of small, tightly-knit (i.e. everybody knows everybody already) servers don't need or want all of the extra "community" stuff. Community features seem like they're mostly for managing loosely-knit communities that are big enough to need different trust levels, onboarding procedures, announcements etc. In fact, the Discord UI says as much: "Don't [convert your server to Community] if your server…

I'm not sure any of that answers my question. If I don't want a public or large community I'm not supposed to convert to community, okay, but I can still want thread channels for organizing information. They aren't useless for small groups of people, and the same is true for some of the other community-locked features. And enabling community mode isn't necessarily the solution either. It comes with a bunch of dubious…

mostly because Forums look to be 95% just messages in a channel with a thread for the conversation, just with a forum UI frontpage. on your small servers just make a channel, topic messages are sent to it, and then people talk in a thread.

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

twobitshifter wrote: post #186
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #113

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> Have you considered simply not using a username that ties back to your real identity? I assumed it's been Internet 101 for several years now. To the point I don't remember when I used my real name on the Internet. And whenever I do, it must be a really important and a well thought-out reason. Moreover, I use a different nickname for every service so that if someone looks up dvfjsdhgfv they will only find HN and HN-…

In the 90s we were taught, never give out your name, your age, where you live, or anything that can be tied back to you.

And then came LinkedIn that asked for full access to your inbox (yes, username and password! and people gave it away), Facebook with their "real name policy" (and people complied!), Android with automatic access to your contacts without your consent (I believe they fixed it at some point though) and so on. Everything seems upside down.

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Post by TheAngush »

vorpalhex wrote: post #217
pie_flavor wrote: post #207

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There's no paywall at all. What are you talking about?

Try sending a big message or file over 8Mb.

What forums let you do that? Every forum I use (all based on Xenforo, admittedly) don't allow file uploads period, except for a small avatar. All other content must be embedded through external links. Which Discord also supports.

Not sure where the paywalling of forum features is happening there.

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Post by madeofpalk »

BrainVirus wrote: post #198
cyral wrote: post #111

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> but then scrubbed every mention of games There is a gaming area with a list of all the popular gaming discords, and it still shows your gaming status if you are playing a game. Was there anything more to it than that?

Branding. Discord had references to games, gamers and gaming both in their client UI and official website. Placeholder images, Easter eggs and so on. All of that was scrubbed or replaced. Above all, it was a change in whom they consider their real target audience.

Won't someone think of the gamers!

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by madeofpalk »

danr4 wrote: post #71
spankalee wrote: post #28

My OSS Project (Lit - at https://lit.dev ) just moved our community chat from Slack to Discord[1] and we couldn't be happier right now. one of the main reasons is the velocity that Discord is moving to add useful community oriented features like this. Assuming this means that Forum Channels are GA now, we're going to us them for our #ask-for-help channel to make them more organized and searchable. I think it's a grea…

The velocity????? Discord’s product has barely changed, they move so slow, but thanks to their market dominance no one has been able to compete

I think they've been iterating fairly quickly tbh. Loads of improvements for bots (slash commands, modals, buttons, message context menu api, etc), threads, these 'forum channels'.

Whatever you can say about Discord's iteration speed, Slack is 100x slower.

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Post by satiric »

datpuz wrote: post #163

I wonder if Discord will ever catch on in the corporate world. I use Slack for work and Discord for recreation. Is it just me, or does Discord just seem vastly superior to Slack? Slack is so tedious to navigate by comparison, especially when you have many channels with separate PMs in them. Discord just continues to get better in the right ways, but Slack just feels bloated with features that it takes too much effort…

When slack had threads and discord didn't it was vastly superior, because without threads everything is a jumbled mess. I still find slack's threads implementation to be better.
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