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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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To everyone who feels sad by these news, my condolences. I respect your pain.

However, I have to confess that to whenever I hear that someone aged 90+ (80+, even) died, I don't really feel sad. Actually, I feel an urge to praise this person's achievements, as I'm aware we are all mortals, and death is unavoidable.

I prefer to rejoice in how much this person has witnessed throughout her life, how she had enough health to keep her wits until the end, how she could raise children, grandchildren, and even know her great-grandchildren.

What else can we humans aspire? Living forever is out of question. As soon as we are born, we are bound to die. So it's a pretty good life to be able to reach a good age, knowing that all our dear ones are set for life, raising families of their own, and living their lives the way that is best suited for them.

This is not just theory. I felt this when my grandfather died, aged 95, when my grandmother died aged 96, and when other people I knew died old enough for their deaths not really come as a surprise.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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post #103

Born in April, 1926, it's crazy how much the world has changed in her lifetime. May she rest in peace.

She navigated the changing world, role and importance of the crown across her reign with a lot of intelligence and grace.

A less charitable take could say that she oversaw the decline of the crown and collapse of the empire.

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#224

King Charles should consider stepping down in favour of William. We need someone fresh to take on the upcoming difficult times ahead for the disintegrating UK.

William's children are too young to fulfill their role as immediate heirs. It's probably best to let Charles reign as long as possible until his grandchildren reach their majority.

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Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

I know none of us knew her personally but this doesn’t seem like a sentiment shared by most, and it is definitely not something to bring up when she isn’t even in the ground yet.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Winston Churchill (1951–55) Anthony Eden (1955–57) Harold Macmillan (1957–63) Alec Douglas-Home (1963–64) Harold Wilson (1964–70) Edward Heath (1970–74) Harold Wilson (1974–76) James Callaghan (1976–79) Margaret Thatcher (1979–90) John Major (1990–97) Tony Blair (1997–07) Gordon Brown (2007–10) David Cameron (2010–16) Theresa May (2016–19) Boris Johnson (2019–22) Liz Truss (2022 (two days ago) - current) Quite the re…

Put another way, her Prime Ministers saw the world from 1874 - 2022, nearly 150 years.

And counting!

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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post #107

I am a republican i.e. very anti-monarchist but it is a historic moment and I feel sad for some reason. The end of an era. A constant throughout the postwar period in this country. Someone my gran loved too and looked up to, so I feel pretty sad as a Brit.

Commonwealth citizen and feel much the same. She had my respect, but takes all of it with her...

From one of the commonwealth countries, I don't feel sad and I am not sure how to feel about such news from anyone from the British royal family from that time, they surely must have had an effect on how the world turned out or maybe they didn't (I don't know much about British history and its inner workings). This family was responsible for a lot of pain and suffering world wide, or maybe these members of this family were responsible to put an end to the pain and suffering around the world as the world moved on. In any case, my condolences to the ones greiving.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

Yes! Let's push this as hard as possible. Monarchies are an affront to all Enlightenment ideals and belong in the history books.

Enlightenment ideals are an affront to all that is good in humanity and the victims of Robespierre and the industrial revolution know it better than anyone. Let us push to the opposite side and make away with enlightenment and its destructive path. In a couple centuries enlightenment has put us closer to death than any and all kings.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#230

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

Just reflect when we (as outsiders) were astonished by North Koreans mourning Kim Jong-Il.
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