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Couple things to look into if you are thinking of running a marketplace:

1. Tax gets complicated in marketplace model. Marketplace facilitator tax laws in US and some European countries require the entity running the marketplace to collect and remit tax.

2. If your channels have multi-warehouses and ship from different US states its important to remember there are 11 origin-based states in the US.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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> - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished chang…

> What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished changes, right? The things AGPL adds to GPL don't just affect people trying to do a SaaS offering of the program. If you modify it and users interact with it over a computer network you have to make source for your modified version…

> If that restaurant wants to use that as a competitive advantage over other restaurants they aren't going to want to have to give away their modifications, so aren't going to want to use AGPL software.

That's exactly the kinds of scenario the AGPL was written to avoid, right? The free software movement doesn't see software as a competitive advantage worth protecting; software is information that should be free.

To put it another way, if somebody releases software under a license that says "You may use and modify this for free, but you must contribute your changes back to the world," then your scenario seems perfectly fair.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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A few points I'm skeptical of: simply connect to the seller’s infra instead of locking them in. One of the value-adds of Amazon is there's a whole bunch of tech sellers don't need to know how to write, run, and maintain. You'd need to understand how big the niche "technically literate to run their own e-commerce business, but selling on Amazon for other reasons" is, then how your operation would answer those "other r…

My first reaction to the idea a few hours ago was along those same lines.

Coming back to the ShowHN just now, I thought “China.”

By which I guess I mean manufacturing, and not drop shippers, middlemen, importers, etc.

To me, it seems like this matches the way manufacturers multi-channel their sales, and fits the IT priorities a manufacturer is likely to have…bills of materials, inventories, forecasting, design, etc. and not a big emphasis on the web, saas, and building websites.

YMMV.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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Love open source projects in the eCommerce domain, especially ones that are JavaScript instead of PHP! Two pieces of feedback: - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. - You've really built an Order Management System for marketplace us…

> - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished chang…

"What makes the AGPL unattractive?"

I won't pretend to be a lawyer, but I do know that when we were acquired we had to list ever piece of software we used and which licence it was under. They were very concerned about copy left. We didn't have any, so I don't know how that would have changed things. MIT was what they were hoping to see.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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It's not stupid. Unnecessary most of the time but it becomes an expected processing and delivery standard, which makes the experience much more predictable for consumers. Very few can really compete effectively with Amazon on this front. Source: Used to run an e-commerce company that shipped up to 2 million packages annually. Once we optimised shipping and processing, customer service inquiries and complaints dropped…

The advantage of a great logistics network is predictability. If I order from Etsy, I will drop $100 on a product and shipping. But when will I get it? I don’t know. Will it even arrive? Who knows? With Amazon I know what I order is coming this week. That’s why I buy from them and no one else. It doesn’t matter that half their website is styled like it’s 2003 and I’m probably getting a counterfeit product.

how is it not kind of stupid to prioritize getting something asap over being genuine?

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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A few points I'm skeptical of: simply connect to the seller’s infra instead of locking them in. One of the value-adds of Amazon is there's a whole bunch of tech sellers don't need to know how to write, run, and maintain. You'd need to understand how big the niche "technically literate to run their own e-commerce business, but selling on Amazon for other reasons" is, then how your operation would answer those "other r…

i think the branding "open source Amazon" is just way too ambitious/big. invites a lot of confusion/criticism if Amazon is different things to different people.

I would be down for an open source AWS services. Shouldn't be to hard to make web front end to the fire cracker instance, but make everything in the backend open source, so any one can run the community edition.

Any thoughts on that?

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> - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished chang…

Here's Google's stance on why they ban AGPL software: https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl... > The primary risk presented by AGPL is that any product or service that depends on AGPL-licensed code, or includes anything copied or derived from AGPL-licensed code, may be subject to the virality of the AGPL license. > This viral effect requires that the complete corresponding source code of the pr…

that really give one a sad state on the reality of business.

the fact that google is against AGPL, makes it even more important to use it! Whatever is good for google, it is not good for humanity, and whatever google doesn't like is beneficial for humanity. Support AGPL!

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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You are trying to solve a real-world problem experienced by a lot of profitable companies, so there is already a market of paying customers waiting for this. One of my clients is actively trying to reduce their dependence on Amazon and instead integrate with other marketplaces. I see it's just Shopify-to-Shopify for now - bravo for starting with probably one of the most costly integrations. I'm working with a client…

Can I ask, out of curiosity, what was the low-code solution they ran with? I've tried a few and been only marginally happy with most.

I’ve been using n8n and I love it. Easy to build almost any ETL workflow I can imagine.
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