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Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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> If Instagram wants to capture TikTok's magical human touch, it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper. I think this is really funny. The conclusion I would draw is slightly different - that Instagram isn't Tiktok and it's never going to be Tiktok. You can make Instagram's algorithm exactly like Tiktok and it still won't be like Tiktok because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram,…

>because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram Instagram's getting more and more of the creators--financial incentives. Why post on just Tiktok if you can make more money by posting on both?

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I hate how I can’t scrub through the video on Shorts. Counterintuitively, I feel like my time is being wasted when I’m forced to watch the whole clip, despite it being not that long to begin with.

Not being able to scrub video is an accessibility issue. If you don't catch something on the first watch, it's incredibly frustrating to re-watch the whole thing instead of going back a few seconds. Even if it's 'short' content. Looping the whole clip again isn't useful to someone who just wants to re-listen to one line so that they are sure they understood it correctly. In one case, a small nuisance; very frustratin…

>it's incredibly frustrating to re-watch the whole thing instead of going back a few seconds.

Which shows up in their data as a positive and reinforces the design decision

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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As a millennial I can tell you exactly why TikTok is better: 1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work. 2. Reels are often…

> 1. The Reels algorithm is simplistic as fuck. I was scrolling through Instagram recently and a three reel “ad” came up. I accidentally tapped on the center one and it turned out to be a pimple popping video. Now every reel I see is that. No exceptions. I am sure if I actually watched more Reels I would get better content but that’s work. OMG this... a million times this :/. YouTube has similar issues--where you wat…

The reason I haven't deleted Instagram yet is because the algorithm is so bad it's as if there isn't one at all. It makes it much easier to break the dopamine cycle and not feel addicted. I spend half my time on there telling it that I don't like what it's showing me and I still get the same crap in my feed over and over.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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Instagram is owned by influencers while TikTok is extremely successful at making emerge videos from random people that have captured insanely interesting moments, Instagram won't let the spotlight go from influencers to the common people.

>Instagram won't let the spotlight go from influencers to the common people.

Think this is one of the fundamental differences, Tiktok feel more like a level playing field and it also feels like the system actually goes out of it's way to find you an audience.

It's my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that Tiktok almost creates invisible "Subreddits" for topics it identifies then pushes all content it detects as that topic to everyone in the group. All invisible to the end user.

While tiktok helps you find an audience for your content, IG almost punishes you because you don't have one, then punishes you more if you don't do the right algorithm dance.

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TikTok has such a content and data advantage. More viewers, more creators, more content. Feels like it’ll be very hard for Meta, YouTube or any competitor to come back without coming up with a hugely superior recommendation algorithm, and TikTok’s feels hard to beat, or some kind of improved creation tools that give it a content library advantage. And TikTok just has the momentum, the cool factor. Instagram did too w…

...also Tiktok doesn't care about privacy

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> If Instagram wants to capture TikTok's magical human touch, it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper. I think this is really funny. The conclusion I would draw is slightly different - that Instagram isn't Tiktok and it's never going to be Tiktok. You can make Instagram's algorithm exactly like Tiktok and it still won't be like Tiktok because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram,…

Why bother doing that when you likely can just buy or copy it? Why doesn't Hatebook just make a new complete clone of TikTok, FlibFlab, and push that on users instead trying to half incorporate it into Insta that has a user base that wants to use it as it is?

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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I like this piece, but it basically measured which app do you use more. If they wanted to really drill in, they should have had folks compare performance on new accounts. I still suspect TikTok would win? But you’d get cleaner results.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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> If Instagram wants to capture TikTok's magical human touch, it needs to measure and optimize for something deeper. I think this is really funny. The conclusion I would draw is slightly different - that Instagram isn't Tiktok and it's never going to be Tiktok. You can make Instagram's algorithm exactly like Tiktok and it still won't be like Tiktok because the users and content creators on Tiktok aren't on Instagram,…

The building and launching approach makes intuitive sense, but it runs against the feudal nature of large tech companies.

This point is perhaps clearer if we take Google as an example instead. Mid-level engineers attach themselves to a project or initiate it, then guide it past a certain point. Once promotion is secured, the project is dropped by its initiators. Staffed with lower-status engineers who were enrolled without the prospect of promotion, the project begins a gradual rot and the Google graveyard deepens.

The key concept here is that the projects are launched and fueled at the start explicitly for the chance of promotion. In the strategy you describe, with Facebook higher-ups mandating the top-down creation of various projects as part of the global strategy of the company, it would become risky for mid-level engineers to ever get involved. They would not have their names connected with the success of the projects as higher-ups would have imprinted themselves on it beforehand, but would be connected to its failure, whereas in the Google scene the 'moonshot' culture is well-established and limits this sort of blame. Due to massive opportunity costs, Facebook employees would be better off trying to get promoted through the traditional channels, or to quit and pursue the promising ideas themselves and hope to get bought out eventually.

Re: Evaluation of TikTok vs. Instagram Reels

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I think Meta really screwed up by not creating a stand-alone Reels app and instead trying to integrate it with Instagram. As someone who doesn't really like Meta as a company, I would admittedly be interested in trying out a totally new video-centric app released by them. But instead all they did was make instagram a little worse. I mean they already had instagram videos, shoe-horning a fifth tab at the bottom isn't…

>I think Meta really screwed up by not creating a stand-alone Reels app The fact you don't know of Lasso, but do know of Reels is telling of how well that strategy works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasso_(video_sharing_app)

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