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Maybe it's just, that the European law makers understand the risk of being are to transfer sensitive persona data into other legislations, and that a local registered company doesn't mean there are technical bounds.
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This is germany still, not the whole of the EU. But it does show how an all-reaching law like gdpr can have stramge consequences…
isn't the crux of the matter the all-reaching laws of the US that allows their intelligence agencies to order EU-subsidiaries of US companies to offer up their data..?
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But when is about TikTok I see most americans have completely different values, no sorry americans are consistent, only US citizens deserve rights, the rest can be spied on, tortured,killed etc. Give EU citizens same privacy rights and there so no need to start an economic war because some NSA fat and lazy agent does not want to prepare a file to request a warrant. If you are at it, maybe is tiem to let US citizens t…
Please don't take HN threads into flamewar, let alone nationalistic flamewar. It's exactly what we don't want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines in other threads too. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop.
Sorry but how can I respond when all the dudes above are accusing Germany and EU that are doing this because protectionism?
Probably I should ignore them? Or submit a TicTok article immediately and watch the hypocrisy?
Hey America - stop spying on our our citizens or we will stop buying your tech. Seriously. We talk about this cloud stuff like it is rocket science. It is not. It is a box in a basement. We are capable of doing that ourselves. And no. It ain’t cool for NSA to sniff around some German governmental software, even though you are the good guys and on our side.
Please don't start nationalistic flamewars on HN. This one was particularly hellish and particularly dumb. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Please refrain from interfering with healthy discussion.
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Sorry to be so blunt but every EU competitor sucks ass. So if the EU has it their way, it is us Europeans the ones getting fucked.
It’ll be bad for a while, but alternatives will pop up. There’s plenty of money to be made. Europe is Apple’s third largest market, making $90 billion last year alone. You don’t think other companies will step up for even a tiny percent of that?
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Please don't start nationalistic flamewars on HN. This one was particularly hellish and particularly dumb. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Critcism of US spying is not "starting a flame war". Please refrain from interfering with healthy discussion.
Btw, your account has been adding to this flamewar in just the way that we don't want here. I'm not going to ban you right now, but only because it doesn't feel sporting to ban an account that I only noticed when you replied to me. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules, though, we'd appreciate it.
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Critcism of US spying is not "starting a flame war". Please refrain from interfering with healthy discussion.
Words cannot express how little we care what you or anyone else has to say about "US spying" as long as you/they do it within the site guidelines and the intended spirit of the site. From a moderation point of view, the issue is not "US spying", it's "violation of the site rules" - which was happening all over this thread. This was the extreme opposite of "healthy discussion". Btw, your account has been adding to thi…
Not a single rule was violated in the post above. Looks like hackernews needs more responsible moderators.
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Generally speaking, we look at the legal system in the country and decide whether it is /legal/ for the state to do such a thing, and whether there are appropriate safeguards to prevent it from doing so. Yes, they could change the law - and at that point it would become illegal for companies in that country to do business in the EU. Usually most countries are smart enough not to damage themselves economically by prev…
> Yes, they could change the law They could also just not follow the law
The context for this: say you're a SaaS and you want to tap into the EU market. Per GDPR, personally identifiable data shouldn't leave the jurisdiction of the EU so you should use EU hosted servers, storage etc. So you might then split your app to an EU hosted datacenter of your preferred cloud provider. This ruling says that's insufficient as while the data remains functionally in the EU it's still possible for it t…
> it's still possible for it to be accessed on the backend by non EU entities. Why is this the case? Why aren't EU employees who allow the data to leave the EU negligent?