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Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by LinuxBender »

oefnak wrote: post #211
LinuxBender wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might vary from location to location. Everyone in my state is armed and about 2/3 of people are concealed carrying. Everyone here will look out for each other. Everyone in my area knows who lives where and what vehicles they drive. There is property crime but that also carries with it the added risk of justifiable homicide which sadly is not broken down in the homicide statistics as far as I know.

> justifiable homicide Killing somebody for breaking in... Oh what a world.

It is a messed up world. Sadly people that have bad things going on in their lives get depressed and look for an escape. Here as in many places that escape is typically alcohol and/or meth. When people become addicted and overuse drugs their rational mind is overpowered by emotions and desperation. When in that state of mind one can not presume their intentions or how they will react when confronted. My own theory of which I have zero data to back it up is that on some level they want to leave this world but want someone else to do it for them.

As a pragmatic realist all I can do is work with the cards I am dealt. That is one of the many reasons I moved to a place I am allowed, encouraged and expected to defend myself, my family and my property. I do not consider myself or family to be replaceable. The best I can do otherwise is to mitigate getting into that situation in the first place by hardening my home but people will always find a way around it.

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Post by exolymph »

duxup wrote: post #215
kube-system wrote: post #188

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Obviously people have guard dogs to guard things. But dangerous dogs who attack strangers don’t ask questions. If they’ll bite a strange thief, they’ll bite other strangers without bad motives. Dogs are smart, but they don’t understand “Hi I’m your new mailman”, etc.

Yeah some little kid wanders into the wrong space, shouldn't result in a dog attack.

By this logic nobody should be allowed to own a pool. Instead we require pools to be fenced, which is the same thing people do with guard dogs.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by [deleted] »

copperx wrote: post #144
garborg wrote: post #131

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I grew up in sheltered outer suburbs where it's hard for kids to get around on their own, and older kids turn to some nonproductive amusements -- was surprised to hear a friend tell me he liked (after dusk) freeing trailers to watch them roll into cars.

That sounds like a low risk, high reward amusement. Before cameras were everywhere, of course.

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Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by kube-system »

exolymph wrote: post #222
duxup wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah some little kid wanders into the wrong space, shouldn't result in a dog attack.

By this logic nobody should be allowed to own a pool. Instead we require pools to be fenced, which is the same thing people do with guard dogs.

Pools don't jump over fences, though.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by exolymph »

oefnak wrote: post #211
LinuxBender wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might vary from location to location. Everyone in my state is armed and about 2/3 of people are concealed carrying. Everyone here will look out for each other. Everyone in my area knows who lives where and what vehicles they drive. There is property crime but that also carries with it the added risk of justifiable homicide which sadly is not broken down in the homicide statistics as far as I know.

> justifiable homicide Killing somebody for breaking in... Oh what a world.

Stop valuing the acquisition of other people's stuff over your own safety and you won't have this problem :)

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by kube-system »

exolymph wrote: post #220
kube-system wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously people have guard dogs to guard things. But dangerous dogs who attack strangers don’t ask questions. If they’ll bite a strange thief, they’ll bite other strangers without bad motives. Dogs are smart, but they don’t understand “Hi I’m your new mailman”, etc.

Mailboxes are typically outside of the fenced area where the dog is. Stay off my property and you won't have issues, is the point.

That was just one example of many plausible scenarios. There are dozens of scenarios where dogs and people may be on different sides of said fence. The issue is an indiscriminate danger to people. It's the same reason you can't booby trap your own property.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by kolanos »

watwut wrote: post #201
medstrom wrote: post #148

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In the USA, perhaps. Most of the world isn't that lethal.

I don't know why this is downvoted. It is true.

I would assume people are tired of seeing this qualifier in every other HN thread? "It might be bad in the U.S., but in the rest of the world...." Especially when it is verifiably false. [0]

Of the ten most populous countries in the world, only China (2.114) and Indonesia (1.783) have lower peace indexes than the United States (2.337). Of the next ten, only four have lower indexes. In other words, two thirds of the twenty most populous countries in the world (of which the U.S. is third) are more violent than the United STates. Unless by the "rest of the world" we're going to ignore most of the people?

[0]: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-viol...

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by sizzle »

duxup wrote: post #53

When I bought a house I picked up a dog dish and put it by my walkout basement sliding door. Also the pond next to my house has old tennis balls show up in it now and then so I put them next to the dish. According to the local cops break ins in my area are mostly just kids going into open garage / garage side doors / back doors that are left open and stuff to steal is out and obvious and so on. I figure just the sens…

There is a “guard” feature for the Ring home security setup that plays dog bark noises from your Alexa speakers if motion if is detected or doorbell is rung, etc. and random lights turn on at night, super cool features.

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Post by cinntaile »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #200
actually_a_dog wrote: post #195

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In any case, the cost of a dog bowl and some free tennis balls is minimal compared to the potential benefit if even one break-in is prevented. When I sold security systems, I learned that one of those lawn signs alone that says "Protected by XYZ Security" has a deterrent factor. Cameras (even if they're fake or deactivated/unmonitored) also have a pretty significant deterrent factor. See https://www.angi.com/articles…

"Protected by Glock"

Sounds like a bad idea either way, the trespasser might return the favor.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by noSyncCloud »

exolymph wrote: post #220
kube-system wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously people have guard dogs to guard things. But dangerous dogs who attack strangers don’t ask questions. If they’ll bite a strange thief, they’ll bite other strangers without bad motives. Dogs are smart, but they don’t understand “Hi I’m your new mailman”, etc.

Mailboxes are typically outside of the fenced area where the dog is. Stay off my property and you won't have issues, is the point.

> Mailboxes are typically outside of the fenced area where the dog is. Stay off my property and you won't have issues, is the point.

They typically are, yet mail delivery personnel are attacked by dogs constantly.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-postal-service-r...

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