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Post by humanrebar »

stickyricky wrote: post #158

Google should let their employees work wherever they want. Why constrain people. Just go remote.

Unpopular opinion here, but I'm pro-life and am considering moving to full remote to get out of states that allow unrestricted late term abortions. In my view, systemic killing of unborn people [1] is up there with slavery and Jim Crow in the worst parts of American history and culture. I have Quaker culture in my family going way back.

It'd be nice to be able to vote with my feet on some of these things. If course, most large employers are also overtly against this new decision and doing things like directly funding abortions, so now I have that whole aspect to consider.

Maybe we can work on making it easier for small and medium sized business to offer interstate remote work arrangements? Seems like megacorps have an unfair advantage in dealing with the red tape hiring employees who reside in N different states.

[1] Yes, reasonable people can disagree about when personhood is viable. And yes, I support bodily autonomy when other people aren't involved, including most drug legalization, etc.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by refurb »

kjfdpoisfjkds wrote: post #50
JKCalhoun wrote: post #12

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Honestly, Apple should be dialing down investment in Texas.

Will they dial down investment in nations with far worse human rights or is this just virtue signaling?

Texas is clearly bad, but China isn’t.

Guess which ones brings more revenue?

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Post by alfor »

refurb wrote: post #216
na85 wrote: post #203

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Why do you care what some random women you've never met and will never meet do? Why is it important to you?

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So you think it’s ok, we shouldn’t have laws against that. It’s her choice.

To be fair it was the case in primitive societies, they could dispose of the kids or the elderly at any time.

I think a prefer a society where we protect the vulnerable, those who cannot defend themselves.

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Post by abernard1 »

itza1 wrote: post #192
abernard1 wrote: post #49

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And I, having seen Austin, TX grow from a laughingstock to an industry powerhouse, find your points humorous. There is a very big elephant in the room for where people are moving. And those people are young. And those people do not have the belief monoculture that has existed prior. Smaller elephant in the room #2 is that cost pressures and globalism don't care about the opinions of the traditional PMC that has reign…

Sure we believe in the ‘monoculture.’ Every tech worker I know who moved to Austin is here in spite the fact it’s in a conservative state, not because of it. What it comes down to is the south has nice weather and is relatively underpopulated for historical reasons. Nothing else. And frankly, having moved from Seattle, ‘powerhouse’ is an overstatement. Austin is a nice place, but has a long way to go in terms of engi…

> Every tech worker I know who moved to Austin is here in spite the fact it’s in a conservative state, not because of it.

Then you missed the party. I hate to break it to you. Welcome to being a consumer of tech culture, not a producer of it.

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Post by betwixthewires »

na85 wrote: post #203
alfor wrote: post #182

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Why do you care what some random women you've never met and will never meet do? Why is it important to you?

You've got to understand, anti abortion people believe it is murder. This is akin to asking them "why do you care if some random person gets shot in south side Chicago?" It just isn't a line of discussion that makes any sense.

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Post by alfor »

nkrisc wrote: post #210
alfor wrote: post #182

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How about a compromise: you gestate the unwanted fetuses.

How about people learn the consequences of sex instead of killing fetus?

I would adopt a baby if it would save his life.

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Post by humanrebar »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #62
jollybean wrote: post #53

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Does that include gun rights? I'm empathetic to the sentiment, but I think we have to be a bit proportional about this kind of stuff, because 'our rights' is a really, really broad thing, and every issue is different. For example, if this were more of a perfunctory argument about state vs. federal rights, and SCOTUS was really consistent about it, and this was a social issue that got caught up in a legal issue ... an…

There are no state vs. federal rights. No government entity grants American citizens their rights.

Rights extend to people who aren't citizens and living beings who aren't human as well, but nice reply.

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Post by woodruffw »

alfor wrote: post #223
refurb wrote: post #216

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So you think it’s ok, we shouldn’t have laws against that. It’s her choice. To be fair it was the case in primitive societies, they could dispose of the kids or the elderly at any time. I think a prefer a society where we protect the vulnerable, those who cannot defend themselves.

I think the person you’re replying to agrees with you; they were trying to intentionally be absurd. The only problem: a fetus is not a child, and this entire rhetorical strategy requires us to ignore that fact.

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Post by proxyon »

kgwxd wrote: post #194
fumar wrote: post #41

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I recently declined an Apple role that required Austin relocation. I like Austin and considered the move, but ultimately my family is my priority. We can't risk moving to a tech hub in a blistering red state with growing regulation on personhood. I told the recruiter Apple needs to reconsider where it plans to do long-term business.

I moved to Fort Worth a long time ago for work, we had a 1 year old. I didn't really like the idea of him going to school with kids... lets say, of the "Texas mentality", but was really just using the job as a stepping stone to get out of my home state and hoped to be in CA before he'd reach school age. The first week there we met a family that had also just moved from a northern state and ended up hanging out with t…

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